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re: Is MLB becoming irrelevant in today's "Media culture"?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:13 pm to Wayne Campbell
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:13 pm to Wayne Campbell
In those towns like Boston baseball is huge.
When you get to other places where college football dominates they have no chance.
They really need to look at having World Series in July or August because that is about when interest starts to wane. No reason for the World Series to play in winter weather at all.
I don't know how you adjust the schedules or reducing games but baseball is summer and if you look at minor league attendance in some towns, it's huge.
When you get to other places where college football dominates they have no chance.
They really need to look at having World Series in July or August because that is about when interest starts to wane. No reason for the World Series to play in winter weather at all.
I don't know how you adjust the schedules or reducing games but baseball is summer and if you look at minor league attendance in some towns, it's huge.
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:19 pm to nicholastiger
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August because that is about when interest starts to wane. No reason for the World Series to play in winter weather at all.
I don't know...the day auburn lost to vandy and the cubs got swept out by manny and the dodgers was arguably one of the swiftest kick to the nuts ever. Was glad to get it all out in one day, no need to have two days of getting shite on.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:23 pm to piggidyphish
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either way, your statement was outside of the 3 named markets you chose, no one cares. So they shouldn't care...right?
Jesus. Am i not allowed to generalize anything to make points. I thought my posts were long enough, surprised you're even reading them all.
I say David Ortiz doesnt' hustle, you assume i only meant he's the only one that doesn't hustle
I say they strain their abdomen farting and sit out and you say it' never happened.
I say LA/Missouri/SanFran/Oakland, you make sure to add Pittsburgh. Why didnt' you add Detroit or Washington/Baltimore?
I am aware baseball is doing well right now. I think kids up to age 20 right now don't really have an interest in baseball like that age group used to. It's going to catch up with them. All these huge TV deals aren't going to last b/c there's too many other things on tv to justify paying that much for so many insignificant baseball games.
Teams saw what the Yankees got from YES and things started following. Like I said, the Astros have been saying their TV deal isnt' paying out what they expected. That might start happening more and more to small market teams.
Baseball strives on it's big markets. Until tv deals and ratings start dropping in LA/NY/Boston/Chicago/Philly/SanFran, they will continue to do well.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:31 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Jesus. Am i not allowed to generalize anything to make points
Sure...as soon as you start doing it. "outside of a few markets" is general, "ouside of la/san fran/st. louis" isn't.
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I say David Ortiz doesnt' hustle, you assume i only meant he's the only one that doesn't hustle
Again, 'there are at least a handful of players that don't hustle' and then why would I talk about ortiz?
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Why didnt' you add Detroit or Washington/Baltimore?
They care plenty there too. having lived in pittsburg i know how much they love the pirates, that's why I chose them (and why i scoffed at the psu comment).
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I say they strain their abdomen farting and sit out and you say it' never happened.
I said the sneeze sosa had would be better because it was a comical injury and acknowledge that you were using hyperbole.
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I think kids up to age 20 right now don't really have an interest in baseball like that age group used to
When i was in my early 20's i was way too busy to keep up with baseball. It was something i adopted as my life calmed down. Since we're just going on what we think happens, i think that will continue. Short and sweet...baseballs fans aren't just going to die out and go away as much as some love to say it.
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It's going to catch up with them. All these huge TV deals aren't going to last b/c there's too many other things on tv to justify paying that much for so many insignificant baseball games
I disagree. There were the same options a year or two ago when the phillies inked a huge deal.
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Baseball strives on it's big markets. Until tv deals and ratings start dropping in LA/NY/Boston/Chicago/Philly/SanFran, they will continue to do well.
Just to be an arse...but what about st. louis?
even if you are going to say that as though it's a forgone conclusion, which it isn't.
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surprised you're even reading them all.
never underestimate the power of running out the clock while at work.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:56 pm to TeddyPadillac
[quote]Teams saw what the Yankees got from YES and things started following. Like I said, the Astros have been saying their TV deal isnt' paying out what they expected. That might start happening more and more to small market teams. [/quote
The Astros tv deal never got off the ground. The vast majority of the Houston area didn't even get CSTHouston.
Let's wait and see what happens next year when their network is more widely available. I know a number of people in my area, late 20s people at that, that will tune in once the network is available on the local carrier.
The Astros tv deal never got off the ground. The vast majority of the Houston area didn't even get CSTHouston.
Let's wait and see what happens next year when their network is more widely available. I know a number of people in my area, late 20s people at that, that will tune in once the network is available on the local carrier.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:19 pm to Wayne Campbell
The complaint about the speed of an MLB game has nothing to do with game play. It's the commercials. After every half inning, they go to 3-4 minutes of commercials. Between the 1st inning and the start of the 9th inning that's 48 minutes of commercials if one goes with the average commercial break is 3 minutes. If the game goes to the bottom of the 9th, that's over 50 minutes of commercials.
Cut the commercial time in half, an average MLB game will be over in about 2.5 hours. But, that would cut into the advertising revenue.
Also, No one complained about the length of MLB season and MLB games when HRs were leaving the parks like planes at JFK. Now, that the lack of HGH has put an emphasis on "small ball" and brought the game back down to its roots, all of a sudden people complain about the length of the game. It's the same game as it was before HGH, just people today are too used to playstation type games.
Cut the commercial time in half, an average MLB game will be over in about 2.5 hours. But, that would cut into the advertising revenue.
Also, No one complained about the length of MLB season and MLB games when HRs were leaving the parks like planes at JFK. Now, that the lack of HGH has put an emphasis on "small ball" and brought the game back down to its roots, all of a sudden people complain about the length of the game. It's the same game as it was before HGH, just people today are too used to playstation type games.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:27 pm to piggidyphish
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Just to be an arse...but what about st. louis?
even if you are going to say that as though it's a forgone conclusion, which it isn't.
eh, its not a huge market.
I understand baseball does really well in local markets. No one other than people in Pittsburgh care about a pirates game.
Baseball is extremely regional, which is why people assume it isnt' doing well. If they had the national audience like basketball has, it wouldn't look as if it was dwindling.
National baseball games barely draw 2 million, and that's yankees red sox games. NBA games draw three times that on national games. But I guess the MLB doesn't care that much about that b/c of the strong regional support they get.
I understand your arguments.
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