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re: Is lonzo ball a less explosive Michael Carter Williams?

Posted on 11/21/17 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 4:50 pm to
Reauxl chill, no one’s arguing for him to be ROY or all-NBA NOW, all-rookie team he may get the benefit of the doubt due to the hype and his performance on D/assists/rebounds but whoopdeedoo.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24280 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

I'm trying to figure it out without looking, and I have no idea either.

Villanova beat UNC on that crazy shot but I think it was 2 years ago?

I just can't seem to remember what happened last year.


I used to be able to go back 30 years, without looking it up, and name every national championship team.

87- Louisville
88- Kansas
89 - Michigan
90 - Unlv
91 - Duke
92 - Duke
93 - UNC
94 - Arky
95 - UCLA
96 - Kentucky
97 - Arizona
98 - Kentucky
99 - UConn
00 - Sparty
01 - Duke
02 - Maryland
03 - Syracuse
04 - UConn (had to look it up)
05 - UNC
06 - Florida
07 - Florida
08 - Kansas
09 - UNC
10 - Duke
11 - UConn
12 - Kentucky
13 - Louisville
14 - UConn (had to look it up)
15 - Duke
16 - Nova
17 - UNC

ETA: Got 87 wrong. It was actually Indiana
Louisville won in 86
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86695 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 4:58 pm to
Damn
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86695 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 4:59 pm to
P, I'm trying to fight the false narrative, dangit.

I'm a peacock, ya gotta let me fly!
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 1:25 am to
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well his best Batman was Dirk. Coincidentally that was the only time he ever sniffed a title.


All you have left is dismissing a 38 year old past his prime Jason Kidd?


In 2003 at his prime Kidd was the absolute unquestioned " Batman"(using your term) of the Nets who were tied 2-2 with Spurs in the NBA Finals. Tied 2-2 in his 2nd of back-to-back NBA Finals Sounds like more than a sniff of a ring as team leader.
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
14116 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 1:34 am to
Kenyon Martin was probably his best running mate with the nets.

Kidd is getting massive disrespect here. He was a lock down defender, shot a respectable three ball, and could drive and dish. He was the best PG in the game for awhile, depending on how much you value defense (Nash) and even then Kidd got further in the playoffs with less than Nash did.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 1:42 am to
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Lonzo passes the ball 63.1 times per game. That's more than Curry, Lebron, Russ, Lowry, Harden, and Wall.

21% of Wall's passes lead to buckets
20.3% for Harden
18.9% for Russ
17% for Lebron
16.9% for Curry

Only 12.8% of Lonzo's passes lead to baskets
This season?

Chill out . It's 20 games . Could you please elaborate on the players that Zo is passing the ball to in his long , arduous , grueling 20 game career compared to the above ?

Must be nice kicking the Ball to Durant ,Klay, George,Melo, Kyrie, Love, Beal etc....as opposed to the Lakers squad.
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 1:46 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86695 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 1:51 am to
You tell me to chill out on a post I made almost 10 days ago and I'm going to come hard af to shite on the person involved in my main point..
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/29/17 at 1:53 am to
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This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 8:05 am
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
14116 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:11 am to
I like how he’s comparing Ball as a rookie to some of the best players in the world

Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 6:30 pm to
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Kenyon Martin was probably his best running mate with the nets.

Kidd is getting massive disrespect here. He was a lock down defender, shot a respectable three ball, and could drive and dish. He was the best PG in the game for awhile, depending on how much you value defense (Nash) and even then Kidd got further in the playoffs with less than Nash did.


No big time scorer/ eye pooping stats ( besides career triple doubles) in this era stat obsessed , especially individual scoring.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8334 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 6:40 pm to
You are the shittiest poster ever.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285226 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:02 pm to
Kidd shot 39% over 7 seasons with the Nets.


Chris Paul for comparison is a career 47% shooter

John Stockon, 51%

Steve Nash 49%

Magic 52%



League average is about 44-45%. 39% is fricking putrid and guy over here talking like he was a Batman
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:32 pm to
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Kidd shot 39% over 7 seasons with the Nets.


Chris Paul for comparison is a career 47% shooter

John Stockon, 51%

Steve Nash 49%

Magic 52%



League average is about 44-45%. 39% is fricking putrid and guy over here talking like he was a Batman


That's fine Statboy.

But I'll give you another stat. Previous seasons before Kidd was swapped for Marbury the Nets won 31 & 26 games( no playoffs). With Kidd as "The Man" they double their wins to 52 & go to the 1st of back-to-back NBA Finals . Kidd's Nets were tied 2-2 with the Spurs where he got a good ' sniff' of a ring. Ask Rod Thorn, Kenyon Martin ,or Scott who was " The Man" on that team.


Quite sure statboys would prefer Marbury & his better stats & fg%. Some historically good PG stats from Marbury.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285226 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:37 pm to
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Ask Rod Thorn, Kenyon Martin ,or Scott who was " The Man" on that team.



I never said he wasn't the man on those teams

I said he wasn't a batman.

quote:

Quite sure statboys would prefer Marbury & his better stats & fg%. Some historically good PG stats from Marbury.




That's quite assuming of you bubba
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