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re: Is getting the bye even worth it?

Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:08 pm to
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You keep assuming you win the first round which is asinine.

Where in my post did I say that?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:08 pm to
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the same reason the Week 0 teams look better in Week 1 every year

That’s because it’s been 8 months and the team is likely different from the year prior and possibly has different coaches lol

It’s nowhere near the same as a few weeks in the middle of your season
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:09 pm to
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understand. I don't agree that playing less games is preferable in this context.

Well you’re certainly entitled to your incorrect thoughts.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37370 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:10 pm to
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Well you’re certainly entitled to your incorrect thoughts.

Its an opinion. There is no objective correct answer here. I've stated what my preference would be.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:10 pm to
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You keep assuming you win the first round which is asinine.

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Where in my post did I say that?

Jesus Christ lol
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:11 pm to
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Where in my post did I say that?


It is clearly implied because you think playing that extra game is some kind of benefit here.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37370 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:12 pm to
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It is clearly implied because you think playing that extra game is some kind of benefit here.

For the teams in the quarterfinals, I believe that it is. In no way does that mean that I presume a win in the first round. I think playing a first round game has a team in a better place than a team with a bye.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 6:13 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:15 pm to
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For the teams in the quarterfinals, I believe that it is. In no way does that mean that I presume a win in the first round. I think playing a first round game has a team in a better place than a team with a bye.


That’s why I said you’re playing the results.

You’re saying Ohio State is in a better spot because they already played a game, which is a different argument that whether or not the bye is worthwhile.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37370 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:17 pm to
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You’re saying Ohio State is in a better spot because they already played a game, which is a different argument that whether or not the bye is worthwhile.

I'd say it in a vacuum regardless of team. Like I said, it was my opinion before the season that the first round winners would have a clear advantage over the teams with a BYE. And that was before shitty teams like Boise and ASU got the byes.

Sorry, I just don't see "not having to play" as an advantage or something I would want my college team to have. They aren't in school anymore, they aren't playing games, half of them have a foot out the door---no thanks. I want to keep them on a game footing.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 6:19 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:23 pm to
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I'd say it in a vacuum regardless of team. Like I said, it was my opinion before the season that the first round winners would have a clear advantage over the teams with a BYE


I rest my case.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37370 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:24 pm to
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I rest my case.
This isn't the gotcha you think it is.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42312 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:29 pm to
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I rest my case.


You’re arguing that getting a bye is the best route to get to the quarter finals. He’s arguing that getting a home game before a neutral site game where your opposing team is coming off 3+ weeks of not playing is a better set up to get to the semifinals
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54853 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Mostly, if not entirely, from being sluggish to start and looking like a team that hasn't played in a while.


When you’re the worse team, there’s no “looking sluggish to start”. What happens is what’s supposed to happen
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 10:29 pm
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
8524 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:58 pm to
2 of the bye teams suck thus skewed stat
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7848 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:09 pm to
With the way seeding works out, finishing 3rd in a conference and getting in might be the best way in, especially if you get home field against a weak opponent in the first round.

You actually play the same amount of games as the conference winner with their bye, but you just get your bye earlier and their bye comes a few weeks after yours. But you'll play the same amount of games and with an easy first round opponent you'll work out any kinks that might've come up while resting.

The team that kind of gets fricked the worst could be the CG loser who makes the playoffs as they'll play more games than the 1st and 3rd place teams.

To the OP's question of the bye week being worth it, it's hard to say for certain, even though bye week teams went 0-3, considering that 2 of the 3 teams that lost were greatly overmatched from a talent perspective.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84766 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:41 pm to
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What is the advantage of the bye, exactly? "Being one game closer" doesn't help you unless you win the game


You cannot possibly be serious
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:57 pm to
The bye isn’t the problem, it is deciding who gets the bye. There is almost latitude there. And it impacts all the other seeding and matchups
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 11:58 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39424 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:03 am to
Plus the bye sucks for continuing momentum, college rules, you basically don't tackle or hit for a month.

Saban talked about it on Gameday....the Bye is fools gold, players go on mental vacation... Resting players is overrated.

Oregon, no surprise to anyone looked out of sync and couldn't tackle for shite, while Ohio State just came off a big Playoff game.

This isn't CBB, its CFB.....where Byes are where you go to die.....that's why most teams during the regular season coming off a Bye want to schedule Chattanooga or The Citadel....a gimme game to get their legs back.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 12:04 am
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36755 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:36 am to
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The teams with byes were underdogs. That’s why they’re 0-3.

They’re not 0-3 because they had a bye.

obviously true, but ohio state was also only a favorite because they played last week.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37340 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:19 am to
It’s not like the opening games were challenging at all. They were glorified scrimmages that allowed these teams to gear up while teams like Oregon had to sit at home another week.
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