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re: Is College football broken?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:41 pm to Xenophon
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:41 pm to Xenophon
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Teams go on runs. UGA is on one now. But you don’t have to go back very far to find them not contending. Clemson went on one also. The only real constants have been Ohio St and Alabama.
UGA has always been a sleeping giant if you want to call them that. They would have won a title that 1 year with stafford if there was a playoff, richt wasn’t a great coach. Kirby is an elite coach, other than Ohio state and Bama nobody can compete with their resources
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:43 pm to BilJ
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It’ll make some feel more relevant but if anything you’ve given the big dogs more room for a mulligan. It’ll be the same teams there in the end most years
Yeah exactly. UGA Bama and Ohio state can lose 2 games now and are probably all getting in. The committee isn’t going to leave out those loaded blue blood teams at 2 losses.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:44 pm to ChiGator
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Lol yeah. But realistically florida could become the same thing. Big program with lots of money and huge advantages over most other programs.
Definitely true, but when will they fully take advantage of it again by nailing a coaching hire again is the question. Billy will get his chance however long that may be lol
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:44 pm to grizzlylongcut
In the past, the sport was pretty national.
All of these teams won national titles from the 60s-90s
USC
Nebraska
Arkansas
Colorado
Texas
Miami
0hio State
Penn State
Georgia Tech
Notre Dame
Washington
Michigan
Alabama
Fla State
Florida
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
BYU
Clemson
Oklahoma
Etc, etc, etc...
Now, there's no way that will ever happen again at this current rate because all that matters now is if you're campus is located within 150 miles of hundreds of blue chip recruiting hotbeds AND your university puts every ounce of its funding snd energy into the football program AND you have an elite of elite recruiter at head coach AND a booster base that will pony up millions to pay recruits/transfers every year.
That essentially leaves 4-5 programs every year, snd most of them are all going to be located either in Columbus Ohio or a handful of schools in the South.
Thats not a recipe for bringing in a bigger audience.
The sport will not die, but it will continue to alienate huge swaths of the CFB landscape.
The only way to remedy this would be to institute a full blown NFL draft/FA model... And that's not happening ever because the blubloods will potentially lose their grip on the sport.
It's not a good outlook, but we will see...
All of these teams won national titles from the 60s-90s
USC
Nebraska
Arkansas
Colorado
Texas
Miami
0hio State
Penn State
Georgia Tech
Notre Dame
Washington
Michigan
Alabama
Fla State
Florida
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
BYU
Clemson
Oklahoma
Etc, etc, etc...
Now, there's no way that will ever happen again at this current rate because all that matters now is if you're campus is located within 150 miles of hundreds of blue chip recruiting hotbeds AND your university puts every ounce of its funding snd energy into the football program AND you have an elite of elite recruiter at head coach AND a booster base that will pony up millions to pay recruits/transfers every year.
That essentially leaves 4-5 programs every year, snd most of them are all going to be located either in Columbus Ohio or a handful of schools in the South.
Thats not a recipe for bringing in a bigger audience.
The sport will not die, but it will continue to alienate huge swaths of the CFB landscape.
The only way to remedy this would be to institute a full blown NFL draft/FA model... And that's not happening ever because the blubloods will potentially lose their grip on the sport.
It's not a good outlook, but we will see...
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:47 pm to ChiGator
College ball goes in cycles where one team, or a few teams, seemingly dominate the sport during a particular decade. Been a thing since the dawn of CFB.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:47 pm to Jack Ruby
Reducing scholarships imo is the easiest way at leveling the playing field
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:50 pm to ChiGator
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An NFL roster has 53 guys and like 10 practice players. I don’t see why these college programs need 86 dudes with 10+ PWOs.
Because college can’t just sign guys in the middle of the season
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:50 pm to Jack Ruby
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NFL draft/FA model
I mean, it really doesn’t matter if the blue bloods want it or not. You’re not going to have a college football draft where you tell kids where they’re going to school.
What happens is people freak out and seek ways to create parity….which the big schools use to their advantage to create less parity.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:52 pm to ChiGator
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But realistically florida could become the same thing
Lololol
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:53 pm to Jack Ruby
Here's the thing: some of the blue bloods (Michigan, ND, Penn State, USC, etc) are having a really hard time competing for national championships now.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:54 pm to chalmetteowl
65-70 scholarship players with 10-15 PWOs is more than enough bodies to get through a college season. These teams don’t need 86 guys on scholarship.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:54 pm to FairhopeTider
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mean, it really doesn’t matter if the blue bloods want it or not. You’re not going to have a college football draft where you tell kids where they’re going to school
You can when the programs break off from the schools and use them in name/marketing use only and CFB is essentially just a gigantic pro minor league.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:56 pm to hiltacular
It’s sort of like how the portal was thought to benefit the little guys and prevent roster stockpiling….but ultimately it’s just been better for the blue bloods. Process the recruits you missed on, fill out the roster with transfers looking to jump ship
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:57 pm to hiltacular
quote:Should they?
Yeah exactly. UGA Bama and Ohio state can lose 2 games now and are probably all getting in. The committee isn’t going to leave out those loaded blue blood teams at 2 losses.
I’d argue that a 2 loss OSU should be left out but why would a 2 loss Alabama be left out of a field of 12?
You’re acting like Alabama SHOULD be left out.
Some shite 3 loss teams will make this new thing.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:10 pm to ChiGator
there will be more parity now thanks to NIL. give it a year or two and you'll see the teams that are dropping bags (tennessee, miami, etc) nowadays start showing up in the playoffs
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:33 pm to ChiGator
Well we have 11 different champions in the last 20 years, And I have watched ever second of ever game so theres that.
Also with online gambling...Why yall bitching??? It's called easy fricking money.
Also with online gambling...Why yall bitching??? It's called easy fricking money.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 4:32 am to ChiGator
quote:
Is College football broken?
Yeah.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 4:36 am to chalmetteowl
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Because college can’t just sign guys in the middle of the season
Not yet anyway...
Posted on 1/10/23 at 4:39 am to UnoMe
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Also with online gambling...Why yall bitching??? It's called easy fricking money.
Umm, those online gambling companies don't pay out.
Buddy won $12,000 on a 10 game parlay. Never saw a cent.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 5:24 am to ChiGator
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The same handful of schools just continually dominate, eat up every top recruit, rinse & repeat.
This has always been the case. Go back 25 years ago and Miami was a powerhouse that nobody can compete with. Then it was USC. Then Texas won a National Championship. None of those teams are great now.
Teams have a run then fall. There are ebbs and flows over time. Alabama is the outlier the last decade, but they appear to be headed back to the pack possibly.
The parts that are broken is 1) transfer portal rules, 2) unregulated pay for play & 3) playoff or bust mentality.
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