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re: Is Brady the greatest sportsman ever?

Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by phutureisyic
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:38 pm to
Bo Jackson would have to be on that list being he dominated 2 sports.
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:38 pm to
No Pele?
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:38 pm to
Gretzky should be the top of that list.

His dominance of his peers is unrivalled in sports.
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:40 pm to
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Bo Jackson would have to be on that list being he dominated 2 sports.
Bo was very good at two sports for a very short period of time. He made one MLB all-star team and one Pro Bowl.

If that's your argument, Jim Thorpe and Babe Didrickson should be on the list way before Bo.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Drew Brews
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:47 pm to
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I'll die on the hill that Brady/Brees/Manning are all interchangeable, about equally as good as one another.


Agree 100% with this but good luck telling this to most of this board. The defensive metrics for Brady's teams vs. Brees and Rodgers and how that corresponds to winning is pretty clear. There's a great breakdown on the athletic, but obviously behind a paywall.

Bottom line is it's a team sport. As much as everyone this morning wants to say Brady got the last laugh over Bill, Bill put those championship teams together. Their consistently great defenses had a LOT to do with winning. Not to mention the tuck rule, Seahawks throwing on the goal line, etc. The dude is GREAT, but he sure as shite ends up in great situations ALL the time, including this year. Bucs D went from very average to dominating the best two offenses in the NFL.

Edit: In case ppl think I'm just being a Brees fanboy I'd add this. I think Mahomes and Rodgers are better than all 3. Just purely on what I see watching the game. Individual skill, not team wins and losses.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 4:55 pm
Posted by TomBuchanan
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:47 pm to
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Posted by Drew Brews
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:51 pm to
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Personally I think Manning could, not sure about Brees. Brady’s longevity and how his body has held up are both almost more remarkable to me than his rings. Whatever weirdo diet of non-shadow casting gluten-free wheat grass and super model pussy TB12 subsists off of is clearly working for him.


This is where his greatness is undisputed to me. More impressive than any W-L record. It defies logic. Gisele's poon is what Ponce de Leon was searching for all along.

Posted by diat150
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:53 pm to
secretariat would smoke them all
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:58 pm to
No Aryten Senna?
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:19 pm to
List is shite without Jack Nicklaus
Posted by TEOTWAWKI
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:22 pm to
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Bo Jackson would have to be on that list being he dominated 2 sports.



One bottom tier all-star/pro-bowl for a single 365 day span that were certainly at least partially manufactured

Does not = dominated
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:25 pm to
There may be a lot of hurdur it’s only swimming...

But no other athlete has so utterly dominated his sport on an international stage like Phelps. His % of gold in the Olympics is insane. And he was doing multiple swims in a day/the following day.

It doesn’t get anymore singularly dominant than his Olympic performance. Way too low at 8. Messi is way too high. Ronaldo is better.
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:26 pm to
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Ruth universally respected , but Joe Louis / Jesse Owens & pre 70's athletes typically dismissed

Ruth hit more homers than every other team. He won 7 world series and still holds world series scoreless inning streak as a pitcher. Baseball lived off the Babe for 50 years.
Posted by ecb
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:28 pm to
Serena Williams?
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:30 pm to
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Personally I think Manning could, not sure about Brees. Brady’s longevity and how his body has held up are both almost more remarkable to me than his rings. Whatever weirdo diet of non-shadow casting gluten-free wheat grass and super model pussy TB12 subsists off of is clearly working for him.


That nerve issue largely dismantled Manning. He won in Denver purely on his football IQ. His arm was shot by then.

The better thing is what would you get if you plugged each QB into that offense in their primes. I personally take Manning, but they’re so close it doesn’t matter. I think that’s the point when it comes to QBs until you come across the physical arm talent freaks like Rodgers and Mahomes.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:32 pm to
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The NHL is HQ’d in the USA


A better argument is he played on teams located in the United States.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:32 pm to
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and Messi over Pele? I love Messi but can you show me his 3 World Cup Medals? Better yet can you show me 1?


World cups are not the premiere titles in soccer. The champions league is.
Posted by TEOTWAWKI
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:33 pm to
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Serena Williams?



While he is a man. He does not have very sportsmanlike qualities.
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:35 pm to
If Brees would've retired last year, Brady would've won the super Bowl with the Saints this year. Get outta here with the Brees is just as good garbage.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 6:11 pm to
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Richard Petty won 200 races


Always had the best car and crew, was rarely the best driver. So yeah a lot like Brady.
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