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re: Is America only country that feels sports teams need new stadiums constantly?
Posted on 12/21/12 at 2:48 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Posted on 12/21/12 at 2:48 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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European soccer is designed to not make profits.
??
I'm not doubting you, but can you explain this?
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Posted on 12/21/12 at 2:53 pm to JDM1992
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Football doesn't have near the nostalgia that baseball does. So, I'm not overly upset to see old stadiums go. However, I do wish that they'd be kept more traditional.
There really weren't a lot of 'built for football' classic old NFL Stadiums.
NFL teams used to just play, wherever -- often times in their cities baseball parks, like Yankee Stadium, Detroit Tiger Stadium, and even Wrigley Field. They were all awful for football, as were the 60s and 70s era multipurpose behemoths.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 2:59 pm to The Mick
How about stadiums that essentially ceased to exist?
Posted on 12/21/12 at 3:05 pm to Jefferson Davis
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Posted on 12/21/12 at 3:05 pm to CollegeFBRules
There is no salary cap at all or a limit on the number of plays you own in soccer.
So, your goal is to use any excess money into buying better players.
Of course, there are exceptions to this, but clubs that get purchased by billionaires, such as oil tycoons, will recklessly spend at all costs.
Arsenal is a counterexample to this because they tend to buy cheap, young players who they scout, and sell them off when they get good to make money.
Arsenal has not anything in the past eight years when clubs such as Chelsea and Manchester City have super stud players. It could not hurt if they kept a few of their studs and stop worrying so much about balancing the checkbook.
So, your goal is to use any excess money into buying better players.
Of course, there are exceptions to this, but clubs that get purchased by billionaires, such as oil tycoons, will recklessly spend at all costs.
Arsenal is a counterexample to this because they tend to buy cheap, young players who they scout, and sell them off when they get good to make money.
Arsenal has not anything in the past eight years when clubs such as Chelsea and Manchester City have super stud players. It could not hurt if they kept a few of their studs and stop worrying so much about balancing the checkbook.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 3:16 pm to JDM1992
I doubt this one qualifies as a stadium that shouldn't have been demolished, but I've always been fascinated by Tulane Stadium as it was in New Orleans before my time.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 3:22 pm to Baloo
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Tiger Stadium in Detroit
Was a dump and Comerica is a billion times nicer.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 3:26 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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European soccer is not designed to make profits.
Some individual teams aren't, but leagues are. The EPL is the second most-profitable league in the world.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 3:43 pm to The Mick
In other countries teams are MUCH more attached to their communities than here.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 3:49 pm to The Mick
Arsenal left Highbury a few years ago, and before that they were a (gasp!) South London club, playing in Woolwich.
But such moves are rare. You won't see Liverpool moving to, say, Bath anytime soon, but NFL teams threaten to move all the time while holding cities hostage.
But such moves are rare. You won't see Liverpool moving to, say, Bath anytime soon, but NFL teams threaten to move all the time while holding cities hostage.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 3:50 pm to WarSlamEagle
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Look, even Yankee Stadium was replaceable. Anfield is ancient and in a bad, bad part of Liverpool. With the direction the club is going, trying to catch up with the Premier League and restore their powerful status in the game, a new stadium might do wonders.
as opposed to the good part of Liverpool...
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:10 pm to Sophandros
I'm sure there's a spot in the city that's better than where Anfield is. Even for Liverpool...
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:35 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Aren't luxury boxes sold to corporations as tax writeoffs?
There are cycles in stadium building. There was one from about WWI through the 30s, the period when spectator sports boomed. Then there was another beginning in the '60s for all purpose, efficient, "modern", sterile stadiums. Then when owners realized how much money they could make through luxury boxes, that began another cycle.
There are cycles in stadium building. There was one from about WWI through the 30s, the period when spectator sports boomed. Then there was another beginning in the '60s for all purpose, efficient, "modern", sterile stadiums. Then when owners realized how much money they could make through luxury boxes, that began another cycle.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 6:11 pm to floridatigah
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Seems like the ones that have that 'mystique'- Cameron, Lambeau, Allen Fieldhouse, Fenway, etc. do stick around. Ones that are just old get replaced. What are some examples that shouldn't have been replaced?
Yankee Stadium and the Orange Bowl only the 2 most historic sport venues in US
Posted on 12/21/12 at 6:17 pm to VerlanderBEAST
the "U" just ain't the "U" in Dolphins Stadium...
Posted on 12/21/12 at 6:26 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Yankee Stadium and the Orange Bowl only the 2 most historic sport venues in US
one of those ain't right
Posted on 12/21/12 at 6:31 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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VerlanderBEAST
The Orange Bowl? Seriously?
Posted on 12/22/12 at 12:03 am to Kafka
quote:The luxury box phenomenon started with the Louisiana Superdome. Well, the Astrodome had Judge Roy Hofheinz's suite/apartment until they built seating areas all the way around. But the Superdome was the first with 64 box suites, as the called them.
Aren't luxury boxes sold to corporations as tax writeoffs?
There are cycles in stadium building. There was one from about WWI through the 30s, the period when spectator sports boomed. Then there was another beginning in the '60s for all purpose, efficient, "modern", sterile stadiums. Then when owners realized how much money they could make through luxury boxes, that began another cycle.
Posted on 12/22/12 at 9:02 am to Vicks Kennel Club
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European soccer is designed to not make profits.
That's just not true. Please explain.
Posted on 12/22/12 at 9:17 am to barry
The Orange Bowl's problem was that it was in a terrible part of town. The city of Miami decided in the 1980s to build the new stadium for the Dolphins and a potential baseball team and then began pouring resources into it.
They let the Orange Bowl fall into disrepair until they finally chased UM out of it. I went to a game there in 2005 and the stadium they didn't have a jumbotron! The stadium lights had been knocked out by Hurricane Wilma and ESPN had to bring in trucks to light the stadium.
They let the Orange Bowl fall into disrepair until they finally chased UM out of it. I went to a game there in 2005 and the stadium they didn't have a jumbotron! The stadium lights had been knocked out by Hurricane Wilma and ESPN had to bring in trucks to light the stadium.
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