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IndyCar dominating Nascar in raitings. Has this always been the case?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:51 pm
Charlotte TV Ratings
Top 10 Indy 500 Markets
Indianapolis (21.3)
Dayton (8.1)
Cincinnati (8.1)
Ft. Myers/Naples (6.3)
Louisville (6.0)
Nashville (5.4)
Columbus, OH (5.4)
Hartford/New Haven (5.1)
Greenville/Spartanburg (5.0)
NASCAR TV Ratings
Below are the ratings for the NASCAR Cup Series:
May 30, 2021
Charlotte Motor Speedway
Ratings: 2.3
May 23, 2021
Circuit of the Americas
Ratings: 1.4
May 16, 2021
Dover International Speedway
Ratings: 1.5
May 9, 2021
Darlington Raceway
Ratings: 1.71
May 2, 2021
Kansas Speedway
Ratings: 1.62
quote:
Kyle Larson drove to victory lane, making Rick Hendrick the winningest car owner in the history of the sport. Larson swept all four stages, dominating the event.
However, that’s the lowest rating for the event since 1997. It’s the second-least watched race, also since 1997 with the 2020 event as the only race with less viewers.
For comparison, Sunday’s Indy 500 brought an average of 5.581 million viewers. The race peaked with 7.1 million. It was the most-watched Indianapolis 500 in at least 5 years.
Top 10 Indy 500 Markets
Indianapolis (21.3)
Dayton (8.1)
Cincinnati (8.1)
Ft. Myers/Naples (6.3)
Louisville (6.0)
Nashville (5.4)
Columbus, OH (5.4)
Hartford/New Haven (5.1)
Greenville/Spartanburg (5.0)
NASCAR TV Ratings
Below are the ratings for the NASCAR Cup Series:
May 30, 2021
Charlotte Motor Speedway
Ratings: 2.3
May 23, 2021
Circuit of the Americas
Ratings: 1.4
May 16, 2021
Dover International Speedway
Ratings: 1.5
May 9, 2021
Darlington Raceway
Ratings: 1.71
May 2, 2021
Kansas Speedway
Ratings: 1.62
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:54 pm to SmackDaniels
quote:
Has this always been the case?
No, NASCAR committed suicide
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:55 pm to tiger7166
Well I just saw an article about Bubba Wallace doubling down for this season, so was just curious.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:59 pm to tiger7166
quote:
NASCAR committed suicide
This. NASCAR spent the last 15 years putting on a clinic for how to kill your brand.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:02 pm to SmackDaniels
i know yall know the Indy 500 can't really be compared to random NASCAR races...
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:04 pm to kingbob
quote:Ive never watched NASCAR but recall from 2000-2008 or so hearing how it was the fastest growing sport. Besides the noose stuff what else did they do prior to kill it?
This. NASCAR spent the last 15 years putting on a clinic for how to kill your brand
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:06 pm to chalmetteowl
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i know yall know the Indy 500 can't really be compared to random NASCAR races...
SHHH... Logic isn't allowed here.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:06 pm to SmackDaniels
As a big NASCAR fan and very casual Indycar fan, I made a point to watch the Indy 500 and the Coke 600 blew arse like it has for the last decade. Ridiculous comparison, this would be like comparing Daytona 500 ratings to one of Indycar's Texas races
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:06 pm to SmackDaniels
A lot of people got into Drive to Survive on Netflix during COVID shutdown and thought Indy was F1.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:11 pm to Jake88
quote:
Besides the noose stuff what else did they do prior to kill it?
Outlawed the rebel flag because ever body flying it wanted to own slaves, not rebel against the man
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:15 pm to tiger7166
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rebel against the man
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:18 pm to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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A lot of people got into Drive to Survive on Netflix during COVID shutdown and thought Indy was F1.
history note- the Indy 500 used to be a Grand Prix
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:18 pm to Jake88
Here’s a breakdown of NASCAR’s mistakes outside of general wokeness of recent years, Posted before:
It wasn’t just the regionalism, the cars were all different back then. The drivers were allowed, heck, encouraged to shite talk, crash, and fight. The tracks themselves were each different and had character of their own. Thus, people could choose to root for the hometown hero, the really cool car, or that black hat rebel with attitude. They wanted to tune in to see if tensions would boil over at the different tracks, and how the drivers would handle them.
The sport killed all of those appeals by:
1. Moving races out of the areas where they had the most local fans
2. Standardizing the cars to make them all the same
3. Standardizing the new tracks so that they were all mostly the same
4. Punishing drivers for controversial statements, shite talking other drivers, and fighting.
The end result is a bunch of identical cars on identical tracks piloted by cardboard cutout drivers with literally nothing relatable for the casual fan to grasp on to. There’s no more heroes, blackhats, or wild cars. There’s just a bunch of identical cars with different decals.
It wasn’t just the regionalism, the cars were all different back then. The drivers were allowed, heck, encouraged to shite talk, crash, and fight. The tracks themselves were each different and had character of their own. Thus, people could choose to root for the hometown hero, the really cool car, or that black hat rebel with attitude. They wanted to tune in to see if tensions would boil over at the different tracks, and how the drivers would handle them.
The sport killed all of those appeals by:
1. Moving races out of the areas where they had the most local fans
2. Standardizing the cars to make them all the same
3. Standardizing the new tracks so that they were all mostly the same
4. Punishing drivers for controversial statements, shite talking other drivers, and fighting.
The end result is a bunch of identical cars on identical tracks piloted by cardboard cutout drivers with literally nothing relatable for the casual fan to grasp on to. There’s no more heroes, blackhats, or wild cars. There’s just a bunch of identical cars with different decals.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:19 pm to chalmetteowl
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history note- the Indy 500 used to be a Grand Prix
Used to award FIA points, but was never an F1 race
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:22 pm to tiger7166
NASCAR destroyed its own product and legions of loyal fans
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:22 pm to SmackDaniels
Comparing the Indy 500 to an early NASCAR race is like comparing the Super Bowl to random November NBA game.
But Nascar has definitely declined in popularity - some of that self-inflicted and some of that circumstantial (like Gordon, Dale Jr and others retiring).
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:27 pm to Harry Caray
That might not be how it’s interpreted now, but the rebel flag’s importance in NASCAR history has literally nothing to do with racism. NASCAR got its start during the 1920’s prohibition as moonshiners and bootleggers needed cars fast enough to outrun the cops. Eventually, they started racing each other for bragging rights. The Rebel flag was often flown by the moonshiners as a f$&k you to the feds who were trying to stop them from making illegal liquor. The flag was a f$&k you to the government, flown at the races (which started out as essentially illegal drag races) as a f$&k you to the authorities.
The rebel flag didn’t become synonymous with the pro-segregation crowd until the 1960’s when it was used as a campaign symbol for Alabama Governor George Wallace who ran for president opposing Lynden Johnson’s Great Society and Civil Rights Act.
Many fans thought NASCAR went too far when it banned race attendees from flying the flag. Others thought that its meaning and perception had changed since Prohibition, and that it was a bad look for the sport. In the end, no one really won, as usual with leftist politics. Leftists still hate NASCAR and point to it as an example of white nationalism, and a lot of people who did watch NASCAR were offended enough to stop watching it all together.
The rebel flag didn’t become synonymous with the pro-segregation crowd until the 1960’s when it was used as a campaign symbol for Alabama Governor George Wallace who ran for president opposing Lynden Johnson’s Great Society and Civil Rights Act.
Many fans thought NASCAR went too far when it banned race attendees from flying the flag. Others thought that its meaning and perception had changed since Prohibition, and that it was a bad look for the sport. In the end, no one really won, as usual with leftist politics. Leftists still hate NASCAR and point to it as an example of white nationalism, and a lot of people who did watch NASCAR were offended enough to stop watching it all together.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:38 pm to Harry Caray
quote:
Ridiculous comparison
I wouldn't say ridiculous. The 600 used to beat the Indy 500 on a pretty regular basis. Now it's drawing half the audience.
The OP saying that IndyCar is "dominating" NASCAR is ridiculous.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:39 pm to kingbob
quote:While they fricked up the 90s explosion by opening up the 1.5-mile cookie cutters like Texas, Homestead, Kansas, and Chicago, they're really making pushes in the schedule for a ton more variety. 2017 ran on 21 ovals and 2 road courses. This year they're running 7 road courses, removed a Texas, Chicago, and Michigan race, changed the Brickyard 400 to the Indy Road Course, and turned the Bristol spring date into a dirt race which was pretty damn awesome. There are also rumors of bringing in a Chicago street race as early as next year.
3. Standardizing the new tracks so that they were all mostly the same
Really need to kill the stage racing at least for road courses, but they're making a ton of positive changes with the new management.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:42 pm to kingbob
quote:go get some fresh air melvin
In the end, no one really won, as usual with leftist politics. Leftists still hate NASCAR and point to it as an example of white nationalism
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