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In Your Opinion, does Randall Cunningham deserve to be in the Pro Football HOF?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:52 am
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:52 am
I believe he does. IMO he was an amazing athlete. Besides Michael Vick, probably the most athletic QB we may ever see. I looked up the below stats to help. I am curious what everyone else thinks:
Randall Cunningham: 207 TD 143 INT 29,979 Passing Yards 81.5 QB Rating 0 SB Wins
Terry Bradshaw: 212 TD 210 INT 27,989 Passing Yards 70.9 QB Rating 4 SB Wins
Troy Aikman: 165 TD 141 INT 32,942 Passing Yards 81.6 QB Rating 3 SB Wins
Jim Kelly: 237 TD 175 INT 35,467 Passing Yards 84.4 QB Rating 0 SB Wins
Randall Cunningham: 207 TD 143 INT 29,979 Passing Yards 81.5 QB Rating 0 SB Wins
Terry Bradshaw: 212 TD 210 INT 27,989 Passing Yards 70.9 QB Rating 4 SB Wins
Troy Aikman: 165 TD 141 INT 32,942 Passing Yards 81.6 QB Rating 3 SB Wins
Jim Kelly: 237 TD 175 INT 35,467 Passing Yards 84.4 QB Rating 0 SB Wins
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 9:53 am
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:56 am to Kracka
I'm a small hall guy in every sport, so that is the bias that I bring to these type of issues. I think Cunningham was fun to watch and dynamic, but his injury history and lack of team success put him in the hall of very good. A case could be made for his (at the time) records rushing the football, but that didn't seem to be enough for the case of someone like Terrell Davis at the RB spot.
Bradshaw isn't apt because of era differences. Troy and Jim are interesting comparisons, but they both had much more team success. Jim also was one of the first to run his own offense out of no-huddle. Cunningham didn't really have a peak comparable to them, though, in terms of its length and impact. His Viking season was a great reinvention though.
tl;dr version: No hall for Randall.
Bradshaw isn't apt because of era differences. Troy and Jim are interesting comparisons, but they both had much more team success. Jim also was one of the first to run his own offense out of no-huddle. Cunningham didn't really have a peak comparable to them, though, in terms of its length and impact. His Viking season was a great reinvention though.
tl;dr version: No hall for Randall.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 9:58 am
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:16 am to Kracka
He was a speccial talent in the dawn of more open offenses.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:27 am to Kracka
Yes. Solely on his 75 yard punt.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:41 am to Kracka
Cunningham: 0 Super Bowls
The Other Three You Mentioned: 11 combined Super Bowls.
no
The Other Three You Mentioned: 11 combined Super Bowls.
no
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:54 am to Kracka
If we are talking about the Tecmo Super Bowl HOF, then he is in the first class. "QB - Eagles" was a dominant weapon through the air and on the ground...allowing him to avoid the rush even when the defense selected your play.
Personally, I would say he should not be in. But, it's hard to say that in light of the fact Aikman is in. Stat-wise the two are roughly the same (you could even argue Cunningham was better due to the running aspect of his game). Aikman benefited greatly, if not almost exclusively from his team success. Yes, team success is important. But it shouldn't be THAT important for an individual award. For instance, does anyone think Dan Marino or Drew Brees are worse QB's than Aikman simply because Aikman has 3 SB wins?
Personally, I would say he should not be in. But, it's hard to say that in light of the fact Aikman is in. Stat-wise the two are roughly the same (you could even argue Cunningham was better due to the running aspect of his game). Aikman benefited greatly, if not almost exclusively from his team success. Yes, team success is important. But it shouldn't be THAT important for an individual award. For instance, does anyone think Dan Marino or Drew Brees are worse QB's than Aikman simply because Aikman has 3 SB wins?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:43 am to Kracka
If you don’t have great numbers you gotta have the super bowls. Cunningham has neither.
This is why Eli will get in
This is why Eli will get in
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:48 am to Kracka
Daunte culpepper
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:54 am to lsutigers1992
quote:
Cunningham: 0 Super Bowls
The Other Three You Mentioned: 11 combined Super Bowls.
no
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:55 am to Kracka
No. Jeff George beat him out at one point.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:57 am to Cromulent
It was a 91 yard punt
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:04 pm to Kracka
RC isn't even on the rung beneath HOF.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:24 pm to Alt26
quote:
does anyone think Dan Marino or Drew Brees are worse QB's than Aikman simply because Aikman has 3 SB wins?
Aikman had SOMETHING to do with them, while Marino had three embarrassing home playoff loses, 2 in AFC Championship games.
I don't know about Brees. Brees has a ring. And his postseason legacy has been tarnished only because of Bountygate, fluke plays, historically awful defenses, and bad referees.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:29 pm to Kracka
quote:RGII (pre-injury), Deshaun Watson and Cam Newton were/are NFL quarterbacks. Now we have Kyler Murray who is also a freak athlete.
Besides Michael Vick, probably the most athletic QB we may ever see
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:31 pm to TTsTowel
Wrong on all counts..... RC was way better than those... as usual you don’t know shite about football.... Cam is a one hit wonder and when he got there he failed terribly.....
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:33 pm to dukke v
quote:You must have missed this quote:
RC was way better than those...
quote:
the most athletic QB
quote:Oh, PEEJ
as usual you don’t know shite about football...
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:33 pm to dukke v
quote:
Wrong on all counts..... RC was way better than those... as usual you don’t know shite about football.... Cam is a one hit wonder and when he got there he failed terribly.....
He wasn’t saying all of them are better than Cunningham
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:49 pm to Kracka
The QBs you compared him to have a combined 11 Super Bowl appearances.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:59 pm to Alt26
Aikman shouldn’t be in
Jim Kelly was actually really good
Jim Kelly was actually really good
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:59 pm to Kracka
If the HOF is for the best of the best then RC is not in that league.
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