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re: In the old days, the transfer portal would have never survived
Posted on 12/30/23 at 2:14 pm to SwampyWaters
Posted on 12/30/23 at 2:14 pm to SwampyWaters
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As I listened to CBK's interview yesterday, the thing that stuck out to me was his statement about how he was going to meet with Heard and his parents when they returned from the bowl game. I can't speak for everyone, but in the old days (those 50 and older), I feel confident in saying 99% of the time there was no need for a meeting. If you made a commitment, you saw it through to the end, period!
I'm in my 60s and I think this is mostly BS. If it had been this easy to transfer, it would have happened more often. It happened plenty of times.
Some notable well before there was a transfer portal.
Crazy legs Hirsch in 1943 transferred from Wisconsin to Michigan.
Marion Motley transferred from South Carolina State to Nevada in 1940.
Randy Moss went to Notre Dame then Florida State and ended up at Marshal in 97.
Deacon Jones went from SC State to Miss Valley State.
There have been many many others, just not as much press coverage.
The portal is just a way to catalog who is considering transferring, transfers have existed for about as long as football has.
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I can remember in middle school my buddies talked me into playing baseball, even though I loved basketball and football much more. I started at third base and in the third game this big boy hits one to the fence and tried to stretch it into a triple, but I was waiting with the ball and he was called out. The problem was he absolutely bulldozed me and injured my shoulder and I was out for the remainder of the season. I tried to quit the team because I couldn't do anything but watch, but my parents said I made a commitment and I was made to go to every practice and every game. Even though I didn't agree with it at the time, it made me realize moving forward that if I made a commitment, I had a responsibility to see it through to the end.
My parents used to say all the time, "Your word is your bond," and even though I didn't understand what they meant at the time, I realized later the importance of those words and it played a major role in how I lived my life and how I raised my own kids.
That is a good life lesson for you but college football for a top-level player is not even close to the same as a middle school baseball team. It's much closer to a person's pursuit of a college degree. Do we denigrate a person who changes majors or even schools because they see something that is a better long-term prospect for them?
I'm not saying that is what is happening with Heard but it could very well be. And even if he is mistaken it's still his choice to make as an adult. Hopefully he sees his opportunity here.
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This "it's all about me" generation just blows my mind
It blows my mind that people say things like this without realizing the flaws of any generation are more of an indictment of the generation that raised them than of the generation itself.
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and it's a big reason why our society is so screwed up. I never thought I would live to see a teenager walk onto a college campus and make demands about money and playing time, but it's now the reality of college football.
Do you think that is any different than it was in the past because it is more obvious now? It isn't.
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My hope is that when Heard's parents meet with CBK, they will apologize for their son's actions and inform coach that their son made a commitment to LSU and he will be spending the rest of his college career being a Tiger.
Having no real knowledge of what is going on, my hope is they have an amicable meeting and whatever happens is good for both parties. I think that would be for Heard to stay at LSU but that is not a decision for me to make.
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Unfortunately, we all know that's likely not happening and Tiger Nation will have to wait with bated breath on what this teenager decides to do and how much more will it cost us!
Cost us?
Some of you guys act like they are reaching into your pocket sometimes. Chances are what will happen is Heard will transfer but I still hold out hope he does not. Either way, I will simply await some announcement. Bated breath is a stretch , though.
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Posted on 12/30/23 at 2:32 pm to lsutigertalk
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Coaches have just as much power to push players to go into the portal as player have to enter it.
Nope. A coach can tell a player he's better off elsewhere, but word gets out if you actually pull a scholly
Posted on 12/30/23 at 2:37 pm to SwampyWaters
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In the old days, the transfer portal would have never survived
Not only would it have survived, it would've thrived like it is now. NIL may not have been as much of a factor, but the transfer opportunity would've been seized by many collegiate players if it was allowed without sitting out a season.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 2:46 pm to SwampyWaters
In the olden days colleges and college Presidents and coaches didn't make millions and neither did the players. The players just caught up.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 3:01 pm to goatmilker
quote:And many people DO NOT LIKE the players getting their own.
Presidents and coaches didn't make millions and neither did the players. The players just caught up.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 3:12 pm to AlwysATgr
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Don't you think that there have been some fundamental changes in the CFB game from NIL and the portal? This is a different era.
No doubt, except I would say the rule change to allow NIL and the rule change to allow a first transfer without having to sit out a year in residence at the new school are the driving forces in the ever changing landscape of college football. The portal is just a list of names and contact information of players who are transferring from their previous school.
As described above, the portal makes it easier for the players to find a landing spot if one is available to them, because all coaches know of their intent to transfer and if interested will initiate contact with the player. All the portal does is allow for a broader spectrum of opportunity for transferring players. It is the two rule changes delineated above that have caused the "fundamental" changes to college football.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 3:16 pm to SwampyWaters
Just a quick question, if I had a job and someone from another company said they’d give me a half a million dollar bonus to come work for them, would I still be selfish for considering that?
Posted on 12/30/23 at 3:21 pm to Big Scrub TX
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And many people DO NOT LIKE the players getting their own.
The ncaa and its leadership didn't come up with a plan and just threw in the towel. They deserve to be weak.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 5:51 pm to Curtis Lowe
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All the portal did
Misleading to say this when along with the portal, rule changes came allowing players to transfer and play immediately even without graduating.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 6:53 pm to Volvagia
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All the portal did
Misleading to say this when along with the portal, rule changes came allowing players to transfer and play immediately even without graduating.
Not at all. The rule changes: (1) allowing NIL income and (2) allowing a first transfer without having to sit out a year are what changed the landscape of college football. The portal is just a list of names and contact info for players looking to transfer from one school to another and that is all it is.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:01 pm to SwampyWaters
Players have been bought since the beginning of CFB, don't be so naive.
Coaches used to recruit players to ride the bench so they couldn't play at other schools.
Players get processed every year.
It's always been corrupt
Coaches used to recruit players to ride the bench so they couldn't play at other schools.
Players get processed every year.
It's always been corrupt
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:50 pm to doubleb
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In the old days you had four year scholarships.
No you didn't, most honored the system and if you made the grades and stayed out of trouble you were kept your scholarship even if you ended up being a shitty player. But make no mistake scholarships were always year to year.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:00 am to Big Scrub TX
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It's perpetually amazing to me how a lot of yall are so utterly biased against the players.
I'm 100 percent for the players and have said for years that they should be paid. My point is once you make a commitment to a school see it through to the end and the same for the coaches.
Those who say scholarships are one-year agreements, yes, but it's always been understood that it will be automatically renewed. If that weren't the case, we would be having another national signing day for current college players every year.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:16 pm to SwampyWaters
quote:Well, we know for sure the coaches won't be honoring any such unspoken etiquette. And it's the players risking their bodies.
I'm 100 percent for the players and have said for years that they should be paid. My point is once you make a commitment to a school see it through to the end and the same for the coaches.
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