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re: I'm seeing way too many commentators giving Bill Belichick a pass
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:04 pm to TEOTWAWKI
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:04 pm to TEOTWAWKI
quote:
Sure
Bill finally had to do without Brady and didn't make the playoffs for the first time in how long?
And Brady won the Super Bowl.
Billy is a genius!
So many analytics charts gone over just to arrive at the obvious conclusion he has no clue.
I mean, the Patriots were 7-9 while leading the league in Covid Opt Outs and Dead Cap space.
And they were about 50 yards total away from finishing 10-6 with the worst passing attack in the league.
I'm just saying... get your shots in while you can because I think there's a better than average chance they'll end up somewhere around $90 million under the cap in an off-season where not a lot of contenders will have money to spend.
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Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:08 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Or he objectively and dispassionately decided that the 43 year old QB's asking price was too much. Better to part ways a year early than a year late. Brady was a huge part of the Pats' success. But Bill didn't want to be stuck with an outsized contract for a player who could suddenly hit the wall. There are no villains here.
You guys are talking out of your arse. Brady left the Patriots, and it really wasn't Bill's call.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:08 pm to RollTide1987
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I think we can all agree that Brady is a better GM than Belichick is because it was Brady who convinced Arians to sign Gronk, Brown, and Fournette. All three of them scored touchdowns in the game on Sunday night and none of them were with the Buccaneers last year.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:11 pm to Jcorye1
quote:This is what I find interesting. Brady received no heat for leaving his organization because he felt his help wasnt good enough. Somehow they are trying to warp it into Bill kicking him out?
You guys are talking out of your arse. Brady left the Patriots, and it really wasn't Bill's call.
I personally dont blame him a bit, but this board overall took a completely different stance with Brady here than other players
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:25 pm to lsupride87
quote:Bruh that's a bad take.
Would you rather the Pats have Jimmy G and all the pieces trading Brady would have given them, or what the pats currently had this year?
And you will say "Brady won another super bowl". Well, Jimmy G was good enough to get to a super bowl. He would have had a solid chance to win one with the Pats just like Brady did
What we know for a fact is they went to three superbowls (or 2 depending on when you start counting) and won 2 of of them (or 1). That's better than Jimmy G plus whatever haul you think they'd have gotten from Brady. The odds of that hypothetical yielding better results than what happened even factoring their current situation are low
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:30 pm to lsupride87
quote:Brady also did it at the end of a contract, as he had the right to do
Brady received no heat for leaving his organization because he felt his help wasnt good enough. Somehow they are trying to warp it into Bill kicking him out?
I personally dont blame him a bit, but this board overall took a completely different stance with Brady here than other players
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:31 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:Ahh, so thats the difference between how LeBron and KD did it. Got it
Brady also did it at the end of a contract, as he had the right to do
Oh wait
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:31 pm to castorinho
That logic It reminds me of that old family guy clip about Peter turning down a boat for a mystery box 
“A Super Bowl is a Super Bowl, but Jimmy could’ve done anything. He could’ve even won a Super Bowl!”
quote:
Peter: A boat's a boat, but a mystery box could be anything. It could even be a boat.
Lois: Then let's get the boa...
Peter: We'll take the mystery box.
“A Super Bowl is a Super Bowl, but Jimmy could’ve done anything. He could’ve even won a Super Bowl!”
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:32 pm to lsupride87
quote:I was thinking of AD and not KD
Ahh, so thats the difference between how LeBron and KD did it. Got it
Oh wait
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:34 pm to wildtigercat93
Pats went to 2 super bowls, and won 1, and are now utter shite at qb
Jimmy went to 1 super bowl
Im not saying Brady wasnt successful, but you can not in anyway say definitively the Pats would not have been better off
You can say you arent willing to take the risk because 1 title is worth not taking any risk, but I dont think its fair to say it absolutely known the trade would not have been a better overall solution
Jimmy went to 1 super bowl
Im not saying Brady wasnt successful, but you can not in anyway say definitively the Pats would not have been better off
You can say you arent willing to take the risk because 1 title is worth not taking any risk, but I dont think its fair to say it absolutely known the trade would not have been a better overall solution
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:35 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Im not saying Brady wasnt successful, but you can not in anyway say definitively the Pats would not have been better off
Yes I can. It’s quite literally a fact
We’ve seen what Jimmy is in the exact same scenario you are suggesting they would’ve put him in. Why would he magically be more durable and better in NE?
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:36 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:You have a magic genie that shows you the alternate reality of what would have happened?
Yes I can. It’s quite literally a fact
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:37 pm to lsupride87
quote:
You have a magic genie that shows you the alternate reality of what would have happened?
You’re the one creating alternate universes, not me
I’ve seen both players play in the real reality we live in and the answer is definitive
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:37 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:We did?
We’ve seen what Jimmy is in the exact same scenario
We saw him to play an entire season with Bill and the Pats and not a fricking loser in a flatbill?
I cant respect a grown arse man rocking a flatbill
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:38 pm to lsupride87
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We saw him to play an entire season with Bill and the Pats and not a fricking loser in a flatbill?
Are we going to pretend like Kyle Shannahan is a bad coach now?
Or that the 49ers haven’t had an amazing defense while he’s there?
Is that what we are doing?
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:41 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:Are we pretending Shannahan is as good as Bill?
Are we going to pretend like Kyle Shannahan is a bad coach now?
Or that the 49ers haven’t had an amazing defense while he’s there?
Is that what we are doing?
Because Jimmy G went to the Super Bowl with Shannahan. If we are to make the assumption Bill is at least slightly better we can assume Jimmy, with the elite kings ransom the pats would have gotten, would have won the super bowl
That is a fact
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:46 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Are we pretending Shannahan is as good as Bill?
No, but you are pretending Jimmy is anywhere near as good as Brady. Which is clearly insane
quote:
Because Jimmy G went to the Super Bowl with Shannahan. If we are to make the assumption Bill is at least slightly better we can assume Jimmy, with the elite kings ransom the pats would have gotten, would have won the super bowl
Never thought you’d be a big transitive property guy but here we are.
“If they would’ve gotten a huge haul for Brady, and hit on young contributors on those draft picks then they could’ve won the super bowl”
Guess what actually happened? THEY ACTUALLY WON THE frickING SUPERBOWL.
You’re reward here is saying they could’ve maybe won the Super Bowl hypothetically, when they actually did it while Jimmy failed
And guess what the 49ers are currently trying to do? Get rid of Jimmy garrappolo because they feel they need an upgrade and a QB that can stay on the field
This is truly the most insane argument you’ve ever come up with. And that’s saying something
18 franchises haven’t won a Super Bowl in their entire existence. And yet you’re like “sure the pats got one of those out of it, but what’s in the mystery box? It could be a Super Bowl win even!”
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:48 pm to wildtigercat93
You are an angry elf
I would have done the exact thing the Pats did: Keep Brady
But there is no way to know if that was actually the right decision. Yes they got a super bowl, but then they also had him leave with nothing in return and a horrendous situation at qb
I would have done the exact thing the Pats did: Keep Brady
But there is no way to know if that was actually the right decision. Yes they got a super bowl, but then they also had him leave with nothing in return and a horrendous situation at qb
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:51 pm to lsupride87
I’m not really angry, just flabbergasted. This is like arguing the chiefs should trade Mahommes right now so they can get more value and start Chad henne and maybe win more Super Bowls. I’m just honestly floored you’re trying to make this argument
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:55 pm to wildtigercat93
The chiefs have Mahomes under contract for years and they don’t have a Qb they beleive in behind him
So you are the thought that the Packers fricked up and they should have resigned Favre and not let him walk?
Also you really struggle with reading comprehension today
I never said I disagree with the Pats signing Brady. I said we have no idea if it actually played out better for them or not.
So you are the thought that the Packers fricked up and they should have resigned Favre and not let him walk?
Also you really struggle with reading comprehension today
I never said I disagree with the Pats signing Brady. I said we have no idea if it actually played out better for them or not.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 4:58 pm
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