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re: I'm hoping a Super Bowl will one day be decided by a controversial
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:44 am to diat150
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:44 am to diat150
quote:You don't think the defender holding the receiver's arms down is PI?
I dont mind the penalty or the results but that wasnt a PI last night.
But your observation proves that it is a dumb rule. You shouldn't have 50 yard penalties on 50/50 calls.
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:45 am to Rex
That "40 yard penalty" on the Saints really pissed me off.
I don't have a good solution to the problem.
I don't have a good solution to the problem.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:47 am to cuyahoga tiger
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Is it just me or does it seem that the Saints, forever, always were on the short side of those penalties at the worst opportune moment.Our opponents not so much.
It's not just you. I feel the same way.
It was that way before BountyGate and BGate will not help the problem.
I do not believe that the League and the Refs like our franchise.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:49 am to rantfan
Rex is right it should just be 15 yards and an automatic first down. Officials already affect a game too much, why let them affect it more on a judgment call?
Every corner in the league isn't going to give first downs out every time you turn around.
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Every corner in the league will just blantly foul the receiver amd get the 15 every time
Every corner in the league isn't going to give first downs out every time you turn around.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 9:50 am
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:58 am to alajones
The real problem with PI is not the yardage, but the fact it gets called much too often for, in many cases, little to no real contact. It should only be called when the defender actually grabs or holds or pushes & reroutes a receiver. They need to eliminate the "head wasn't turned " aspect of the penalty if the other criteria aren't met. The league should consider making PI a challengable call as well, at least for longer plays.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:28 am to Rex
I'm torn on this because if it is only 15 a defender could just push the guy down on a long ball.
But the call last night is a shitty situation. If Foles makes a good throw then there would be no interference, it only happened because of the under throw. There is no perfect solution IMO
But the call last night is a shitty situation. If Foles makes a good throw then there would be no interference, it only happened because of the under throw. There is no perfect solution IMO
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:32 am to BayouBandit24
Good point. Defenders should not be penalized for underthrown balls. Unfortunately it happens a lot.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:36 am to kclsufan
I like that. Simple and would help.
There has to be some reasonable way to determine an under throw. Give a little leeway, but the one last night was blatantly a bad throw.
There has to be some reasonable way to determine an under throw. Give a little leeway, but the one last night was blatantly a bad throw.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:42 am to BayouBandit24
Completely agree with the OP
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:43 am to Rex
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60 yard pass interference penalty. Maybe then there will be an outcry for changing the worst rule in pro sports.
The rule doesn't make much competitive sense. For one thing, unlike holds and horse collars and face masks given less severe penalties, most PIs seem to be unintentional acts committed within the heat of competition. But, most importantly, there's no guarantee the receiver would have made such a long catch in the first place, particularly when the defensive back was close enough to make a legitimate play.
The yards granted are too cheap, especially in a league where receivers have a huge advantage in the first place. The college rule is much better: allow the db's the prerogative of giving up 15 yards instead of a long touchdown... that's a nice tactical element missing from the pro game.
I agree it should be a max 15 yd penalty - however, I think that under the 2 min warning defensive interference should add 10 seconds to the clock.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 10:45 am
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:47 am to SpidermanTUba
Not a bad idea, but they kind of do that with the "play can't end on D penalty " now.
EDT: I liked your original idea of setting the clock back to where it was when the penalty occurred better.
EDT: I liked your original idea of setting the clock back to where it was when the penalty occurred better.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 10:49 am
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:48 am to rantfan
quote:
It would be very frustrating if Drew threw 30-40 yard passes down the field and all we got was 15 yards for it. Every corner in the league will just blantly foul the receiver amd get the 15 every time.
bullshite. If they are close enough to foul they are close enough to make the play. If they're beat and they grad, well that already happens
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:51 am to Rex
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It's the worst rule in pro sports.
Fumbling through your own end zone gives a touchback to the other team is easily the worst rule in the game of football and needs to be changed. It's just as bad as the force out rule they used to have.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:58 am to oreeg
I liked the 2 "levels" idea.
If it is routine PI - 15yd penalty
If a db blatantly tackles a WR - spot
If it is routine PI - 15yd penalty
If a db blatantly tackles a WR - spot
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:01 am to Samso
There's a handful of ideas in this thread that are already better than what the league does now.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:42 am to oreeg
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Fumbling through your own end zone gives a touchback to the other team
???
I think you mean fumbling through the opponent's (defense's) endzone.... BTAIM, what would you propose? A jump ball? An arrow for alternating possessions?
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:24 pm to diat150
quote:
I dont mind the penalty or the results but that wasnt a PI last night. It was closer to being offensive pass interference than defensive... such a bullshite call.
Youre an idiot
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:51 pm to St Augustine
quote:
I wouldn't be against having 2 levels of PI where when a db is beat and blatantly tackles the wr it's a spot foul. It's a subjective call anyway and I think it would actually be easier on the refs to call a blatant one as opposed to incidental contact
This would be my suggestion, use it as a flagrant/non-flagrant foul in basketball.. Brings more subjectivity to the game but if you make it reviewable it would make all these calls alot easier
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:57 pm to rantfan
quote:
It would be very frustrating if Drew threw 30-40 yard passes down the field and all we got was 15 yards for it. Every corner in the league will just blantly foul the receiver amd get the 15 every time.
well then congrats, you would never get stopped. what's the problem?
Posted on 1/5/14 at 1:01 pm to Rex
I'm glad you decided to start a new thread instead of contributing to the thread that was already going on the subject.
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