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re: Illinois AD admits he's worried that schools like Illinois will get left behind
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:26 am to WestCoastAg
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:26 am to WestCoastAg
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USC vs Ohio State will be pretty fun
Ohio State would have pretty frequently beaten USC by 3 or 4 touchdowns over the last few years. Once the newness wears off, this becomes just another game between two teams separated by multiple time zones.
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:30 am to Cosmo
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Like nfl with 32 is boring?
It is. Regular season games don’t mean shite outside of the record. If Dallas lost every NFC EAST game but won the other 11 and won the Super Bowl, the fan base would be ecstatic
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:33 am to baldona
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Rivalries and traditions are what have historically made college football great. When rivalries and traditions get whittled away, you're left with a sterile, corporate feeling product that is nothing more than an extremely watered down NFL.
And you replied
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Nah, that’s just what crappy teams say.
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and school spirit is what college football is about
What do you think makes school spirit? It certainly wasn’t playing sterile, corporate feeling season kickoff games in Atlanta or Dallas or houston. It was the regional rivalries that developed school spirit.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:01 am to WestCoastAg
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Ah yes. The epic rivalry of oregon state and wazzu that was tradition filled and must watch TV
WESTCOASTag?
For claiming you're west coast you don't know shite if you think OSU and WSU was a rivalry.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 11:44 am to Dairy Sanders
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Absolutely not. Definitely not with how current tv contracts are constructed. I want my team to play our rivals every year, not some teams from halfway across the country or farther that I don’t give a hot mouse fart about.
It’s funny how you mention tv contracts and what you want in same post. Multimedia contracts won’t care what fanbases think. It will an algorithm that will decide and streaming will play a bigger and bigger role in next contracts. You think nfl fan bases like giving up home games to play in London etc…? The remote now runs sports.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:24 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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What do you think makes school spirit?
Winning obviously helps…
You need money to win, and alumni who’ve moved to Houston and Dallas and Atlanta have money… so you play football games there every now and then to engage them and reward them for being fans
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:30 pm to VADawg
quote:first it was casuals would never care, now it's wait until the newness wears off!!
Once the newness wears off, this becomes just another game between two teams separated by multiple time zones
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:33 pm to dupergreenie
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Tulane has more SEC football championships that MSU so I guess they should be in the SEC.
We also have a shorter SEC title drought.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:35 pm to Zendog
I think the WestCoastAg vision of all this is 20 or 30 heavyweights play each other every week, then do it again in a 4 or 5 round playoff with their 9-3 records. Maybe that will be great, I don't know. I'm just glad Michigan won it all in the last normal season so I don't have to care anymore. 
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:36 pm to WestCoastAg
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first it was casuals would never care, now it's wait until the newness wears off!!
Casuals don’t care.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:51 pm to Bunk Moreland
This has been the last normal season for like the 5th year in a row
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:52 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:LSU won it all in the last normal season.
I'm just glad Michigan won it all in the last normal season so I don't have to care anymore.
After the GOAT season in 2019, you had the covid season followed by transfer portal and NIL
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:54 pm to Tiger Prawn
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This has been the last normal season for like the 5th year in a row
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LSU won it all in the last normal season.
After the GOAT season in 2019, you had the covid season followed by transfer portal and NIL
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:58 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Casuals don’t care.
Yup and that’s what separates the NFL from college football. Casual fans love the nfl. It’s simple, generic, and consumable. Not a whole lot of unique traditions. The rivalries don’t really compare either. I have to share a state every day with Clemson fans. Alabama fans have to share a state with Auburn fans. How often do you think Falcons/Panthers/Buccaneers/Saints fans interact with each other in their daily life (not including online shite talking and such)? Outside of football season, they don’t care. Someone made the point that a team in the NFL won’t care if they go 0-6 in their division and 11-0 outside of it. Those division losses mean nothing to them. If we lose to Georgia or Clemson or Tennessee on down the line, then it means something, same if we win. Plus we play our rivals and conference opponents in damn near every sport. We lose to you in football? Alright we’ll get you on the basketball court or on the diamond. Hell let’s get you in tennis and golf too. That doesn’t exist for pro sports. Different leagues have different divisions and conferences so there isn’t that same consistency and several cities have/had multiple teams in the same sport.
It’s not the same. Oregon fans don’t give one iota of a frick about Ohio State and vice versa. They care about Washington and Oregon State and Michigan respectively. I mean who the hell really wants to see Clemson and Florida State in the Big Ten? They have no connections or rivalries with those teams. They don’t belong there. Hell they don’t even belong in the SEC.
Despite what Gordon Gekko said, greed is NOT good.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 1:09 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:This probably sounded a lot smarter in your head
This board may hate the idea but I don't think LSU survives the second round of separation there just aren't the corporate dollars in Louisiana It's simply not a big enough market
Forbes values the LSU program as the 5th most valuable in the country. Unless the second cut is having a 4 team league, I think LSU is safe
Posted on 6/25/24 at 1:21 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:That's not why they play those lame neutral site openers in NFL stadiums. Those games are similar to bowl games in a way. Since they're not home games for either team involved, the media rights for that game aren't locked up by either teams' conference TV rights contracts. So the committee that puts those games on can sell the media rights to ESPN or one of the other networks separately and offer both schools a hefty payout to come play in their "(insert corporate sponsor name here) Kickoff Classic". Like everything else with college football for the past 15+ years, its all because of TV money.
You need money to win, and alumni who’ve moved to Houston and Dallas and Atlanta have money… so you play football games there every now and then to engage them and reward them for being fans
I bet if you polled LSU fans in those cities and told them that LSU would schedule season openers vs a top 15 quality non-conference opponent and gave them the choice between it being a neutral site game in their city's NFL stadium or schedule it as a home-and-home series....most would pick the home-and-home. Season opener is usually Labor Day weekend, so its perfect for a trip back to BR to catch an exciting matchup in Tiger Stadium or to take what might be a once in a lifetime trip to see LSU play in the LA Coliseum, Autzen, the Big House, Doak Campbell, etc
Posted on 6/25/24 at 2:00 pm to msudawg1200
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And what has Ole Miss done in football the last 60 years?
A lot more than Miss St has done, that's for sure. Your one and only SEC title was in 1941 and your one and only major bowl win was in 1940. Plus Ole Miss has a rather comfortable lead in the Egg Bowl.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 2:02 pm to OWLFAN86
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This board may hate the idea but I don't think LSU survives the second round of separation there just aren't the corporate dollars in Louisiana It's simply not a big enough market
This is being a bit dramatic. LSU has the 6th most valuable athletic dept.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 2:07 pm to GoGators1995
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A lot more than Miss St has done, that's for sure. Your one and only SEC title was in 1941 and your one and only major bowl win was in 1940. Plus Ole Miss has a rather comfortable lead in the Egg Bowl.
Not in the past 50 or so years since integration. Over that time Ole Miss leads the Egg by like 6 games. State has been to more bowl games and finished ranked more times since football integration at both schools. Ole Miss is carried by their "Glory" years under Vaught from the late 40's to late 60's when African Americans weren't allowed to play. Yeah, the last year Ole Miss bought a Top 10 and are "supposed" to be good this year. It runs in cycles with both schools. Remember, just two short years ago State won at Ole Miss and finished in the Top 20.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 2:08 pm to jlovel7
We need promotion and relegation.
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