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re: Ignoring the recruiting aspect, is Leach a top 3 coach?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:55 am to hendersonshands
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:55 am to hendersonshands
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That's the whole point of the thread, though. With all talent being equal, would you prefer Leach or Dabo?
hell my OP said, with bold, that Leach wasn't near Dabo in terms of CFB HC
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:58 am to Fus0623
No he isn’t. It’s because he can’t win big games when he needs to.
I know people love his offense but to be a top 3 you need to have repped your division in a CCG
Top 3 coaches do not lose to Minnesota in a bowl game they threatened not to play in. They don’t lose to FBS teams in back to back years. They don’t lie to AD’s about getting interviews then beg to pay to fly tointerview.
Leach isn’t even the most innovative coach in his conference. That guy in LA Chip Kelly is
I know people love his offense but to be a top 3 you need to have repped your division in a CCG
Top 3 coaches do not lose to Minnesota in a bowl game they threatened not to play in. They don’t lose to FBS teams in back to back years. They don’t lie to AD’s about getting interviews then beg to pay to fly tointerview.
Leach isn’t even the most innovative coach in his conference. That guy in LA Chip Kelly is
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:02 am
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:02 am to sms151t
I like him but the Pac 12 is garbage this year.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:03 am to sms151t
This is what I’ve been waiting for
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:03 am to sms151t
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I know people love his offense but to be a top 3 you need to have repped your division in a CCG
not if you can't get the talent to do it
Leach isn't a good recruiter. he's chosen to coach in BFE waste programs where he can't stumble into elite talent
he almost did in a major conference. he's about to this year
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They don’t lie to AD’s about getting interviews then beg to pay to fly tointerview.
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Leach isn’t even the most innovative coach in his conference. That guy in LA Chip Kelly is
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
I mean Leach hasn’t repeated success of Price at Wazzu
You are trying I’ll give you credit People love to make excuses for Leach
You are trying I’ll give you credit People love to make excuses for Leach
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:07 am
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:08 am to sms151t
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I mean Leach hasn’t repeated success of Price at Wazzu
define "success"
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
Bowl wins
Conference Championships
Draft Picks
Wins
I mean what’s going to be the excuse this time? People make excuses for Leach because he is quirky.
Conference Championships
Draft Picks
Wins
I mean what’s going to be the excuse this time? People make excuses for Leach because he is quirky.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:11 am
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:14 am to sms151t
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Draft Picks
to bring it back to this thread. again, recruiting/talent isn't at issue here
leach has made WSU consistently good, something Price couldn't do. what's a better sign of a good coach: relying on miracle years when you luck into top talent or everything falls your way, or avoiding the pitfalls?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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what's a better sign of a good coach
According to SMS, not being Mike Leach.
I'm convinced Leach big leagued SMS at some bullshite coaching conference that Leach didn't want to be at, and he went from an idol to his mortal enemy over it.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Off the top of my head I’d take Saban Urban Petersen and Patterson before him I think. But that’s probably it. I would say top 5
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
Is Saban even a good coach if he doesn’t have a roster full of 5* players?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:21 am to Ford Frenzy
Yes
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:22 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Patterson
you'd think the last 3 years would have taken some shine off of him. 1 good year and 2 terrible ones
TCU is trending down from that 2014-2015 peak
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:23 am to SlowFlowPro
Next year is big for him. If they have another year like this one or 16 I’ll agree with you. It’s close for me between him and Leach, and I put him ahead because I think his style of play has a higher ceiling.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:24 am to truthbetold
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Gus offense be traced back to the Air Raid somehow?
Gus runs a 2-back play action scheme out of the hurry up, no huddle. His passing game is middle school level of screens and deep bombs. No where near an Air Raid.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:28 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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, and I put him ahead because I think his style of play has a higher ceiling.
he literally took the leap when he started running Leach's offense
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:30 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Gus runs a 2-back play action scheme out of the hurry up, no huddle. His passing game is middle school level of screens and deep bombs. No where near an Air Raid.
yes gus went allin on the spread option and never looked back. his main claim to fame was combining his hurry up principles with the spread option (Chip Kelly did it better, though). when it was new, it was devastating
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
I can see Washington state being the team that this board can get behind. That’s officially adopt them
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
They’ve also always prioritized the front 7 on defense and developed talent much better in that area. Wazzu’s defense has been solid this year but that’s definitely the exception with him
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:41 am
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