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If you were an NFL GM or coach, tell me why Baker Mayfield isn’t the next Johnny Manziel?

Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:26 pm
How would you convince me they aren’t the same guy?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:29 pm to
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How would you convince me they aren’t the same guy?


Well one isn't addicted to drugs to start.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:30 pm to
Manziel was a drug addict.

ETA: How about you convince us that they are the same guy.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:33 pm to
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How about you convince us that they are the same guy.

They are both white and under 6'2"

Therefore he has to be Manziel if you dont like him, and Brees if you do like him
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:33 pm to
Have we seen pics of Mayfield with hookers and blow?
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:34 pm to
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They are both white and under 6'2"

Well shite, might as well put him in rehab now.
Posted by Wolf
Member since Sep 2005
1336 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:36 pm to
Baker Mayfield is a trash talking douche who has one arrest for public intoxication.

Satellites realign their orbits and 10 different law enforcement agencies have to swap info to get an accurate list of all the off the field BS that Manziel was involved in.



Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:36 pm to
Baker won’t be a good pro either sober or not
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:36 pm to
Mayfield completed 72% of his passes while averaging almost 13 yards per attempt.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:36 pm to
One had Mike Evans

One had nobody
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84871 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:37 pm to
Manziel was careless with the football quite often. Baker isn't. He's thrown less INTs in 3 years at Oklahoma than Manziel did in 2 years at A&M. Baker also completes more passes and has a higher yards per attempt and higher yards per completion average than Manziel did.

You take Mayfield over Manziel because he brings as much or more playmaking ability without the hard substance abuse problems.

That being said, lots of GMs will probably see Manziel 2.0 and pass on him.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:40 pm to
I fully believe Manziel would have been a decent QB in the NFL if he wasn't a drug addict.
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:43 pm to
I can’t!!
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:43 pm to
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How would you convince me they aren’t the same guy?

watch them play?
Posted by jumbo
Franklin
Member since Dec 2011
4597 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:45 pm to
Antics aside, Mayfield seems to actually want to play football and put in the work that goes with it.

Manziel wants booze and women 6 days a week and show up on gameday and play.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95168 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:46 pm to
The main material difference is I truly think Mayfield lives and breaths to play football. He loves that shite

Manziel wsa just a great athlete who lived to party
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16864 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 3:48 pm to
Mayfield isn’t a party animal.

However, they may be the same height. Mayfield arm strength is avg. footwork is horrible. 1st round is too high a price to risk on him. There are 2nd, 3rd founders who very good qb in the nfl. Just trust your scout team.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
2915 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 4:30 pm to
Anyone who was a walk-on at two schools and came on to win the starting job eats and sleeps football.

Manziel was in football for the hookers and blow and the status it afforded him. If not for football, Manziel would be a douchebag car salesman working at the dealership his Dad runs. Read his family history, pretty eye-opening and should have made any NFL GM run away unless he was 4th round or lower.

I don't know if Mayfield is a pro, but his history says he is a grinder and big-time football is his dream. If I was a GM, I would take that guy over a guy like Manziel any day. On-field antics may be the same, but his chance of contributing is way more than Manziel's ever was.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 4:41 pm to
Mayfield won a state title in HS, got no respect, walked on to TWO different schools with several scholarship QBs ahead of him, won the job at BOTH schools, set the world on fire at Oklahoma while winning the Heisman, and leads the nation in both completion % and yards per attempt which is a fricking ridiculous stat. He lives and breathes football. Manziel was a careless gunslinger who was an elite athlete that preferred partying.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84871 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 4:42 pm to
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Manziel wsa just a great athlete who lived to party



Dude would have been scary if he could have poured that effort into the game.
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