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re: If there was an NBA redraft, what would the top 10 picks look like?
Posted on 5/26/15 at 11:53 am to PortCityTiger24
Posted on 5/26/15 at 11:53 am to PortCityTiger24
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No Kyrie, no Love (for most of the year), no close to prime Wade, no Bosh, no guarantee to be playing in a weaker conference. He isn't a sure thing
So he has to play 1 vs 5?
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 11:55 am
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 11:59 am to KosmoCramer
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So he has to play 1 vs 5?
?? Kyrie and Love would likely be gone when his team picks again.
Or do you not understand the premise of this thread?
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:01 pm to CocoLoco
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You must not watch basketball to know the hype with him is huge. He has reached super star status. The Pels will be all over national tv next season quite a bit, I guarantee it.
No bias here at all
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:04 pm to Mizzoufan26
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You must not watch basketball to know the hype with him is huge. He has reached super star status. The Pels will be all over national tv next season quite a bit, I guarantee it.
No bias here at all
I was in Europe last week and some teenage Icelandic kid told me how Davis is his favorite player in the league and he loves the Pelicans because of him. LeBron would, and should, go #1 in this hypo, but AD is a big deal.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:04 pm to Mizzoufan26
How many years is this draft for? If it's not a one-year fantasy draft how many years do you get? If you say three years then I still take James 1. If it's five years I takes James 1 because you still get about 3 years as him as the best basketball player on the planet which makes him at 1 worth it.
If you redraft in five years you still take James and build around him.
If you redraft in five years you still take James and build around him.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:04 pm to PrimeTime Money
I won't disagree 
He's beautiful to us though dammit.
He's beautiful to us though dammit.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:06 pm to PortCityTiger24
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Or do you not understand the premise of this thread?
The 31st overall pick will be a really talented guy and all the teams would be fairly balanced. Paul/Griffin, Howard/Harden, Westbrook/Durant, etc. won't be on the same team.
LeBron is the best player on the planet and will make any players around him better. This is a no brainer for non-homer Anthony Davis fans in the short term (3-5 years).
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:08 pm to GynoSandberg
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Where do you think Cleveland ranks among NBA franchise value w Lebron? The market is going to dictate making money, not the player. The Lakers and Knicks are shite teams and yet they print money
We're not talking about value relative to their current location. Lebron James is the most valuable athlete on the planet, figuratively and literally. Whether Cleveland owns the rights to said athlete is irrelevant. This is a hypothetical about a fantasy draft for an unnamed franchise.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:09 pm to Mizzoufan26
Me saying Davis is being hyped up as the next big thing is bias? You're just not paying attention. He's a top 5 player already, people finally got a glimpse of him vs GS in he playoffs. Simmons wrote an article about who is the most valuable player going forward, and he had Davis at #1. He is the largest blue chip player there is and holds the most value because of his age and how good he already is. I guess Simmons is biased as well?
He will be the best player in the NBA. It's just a matter of how soon. He's a very, very big deal.
He will be the best player in the NBA. It's just a matter of how soon. He's a very, very big deal.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:09 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Davis will be the face of the NBA.
And what an ugly face it is.
this has nothing to do with his talent, but i don't think this is true. AD just isn't marketable enough to carry the league. I think Curry has a better chance at being the face of the nba.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:16 pm to KosmoCramer
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This is a no brainer for non-homer Anthony Davis fans in the short term (3-5 years).
You got me
I am just saying, he isn't a guarantee to make it to the finals. He has made it to the Finals 5 times, 6 likely, but he has benifited from teaming up with two top 15 players all but one year and the path he's taken to get there has been easy compared to the teams out West. He is no lock to make it there in this format, which is why I would take a guy who could be the best player in the league in a year or two.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:17 pm to 632627
Dude he's "The Brow" he's like a badass boss on a video game. He's extremely marketable. I don't think some of you guys understand how popular this guy is going to be over the next few years.
Curry is up there because he's relatable. Smaller guy tearing up the NBA makes people picture themselves doing so. They can relate to the average looking dude. People like Lebron and AD are genetic freaks. Not as relatable, but people still want to see it. They are like superhumans. That's how AD is marketed; the brow, with a ridiculous wingspan. On top of that, he's also a good dude.
Curry is up there because he's relatable. Smaller guy tearing up the NBA makes people picture themselves doing so. They can relate to the average looking dude. People like Lebron and AD are genetic freaks. Not as relatable, but people still want to see it. They are like superhumans. That's how AD is marketed; the brow, with a ridiculous wingspan. On top of that, he's also a good dude.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:17 pm to CocoLoco
You're severely overstating just how important Anthony Davis is to the NBA.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:19 pm to hoopsgalore
So are all of these NBA analysts saying the same exact thing as me doing so as well? Am I missing something here?
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:23 pm to lsu480
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What's to say AD wouldn't leave after 5 years? I mean he clearly is going to leave the Pels for The Lakers when his current contract is up
Trololol
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:26 pm to CocoLoco
What, exactly, are these NBA analysts saying? Seriously, provide me with something.
I fail to see what makes Anthony Davis stick out over the rest of the crop of future NBA players in terms of value to the league.
No casual fan, at this point, really cares about seeing Anthony Davis. The talent he possesses is very much going unnoticed and I don't see his First Round performance as some transcendent moment in his career.
We'll see how his value off-the-court progresses, but he is currently no more marketable than players like Steph Curry or James Harden.
I fail to see what makes Anthony Davis stick out over the rest of the crop of future NBA players in terms of value to the league.
No casual fan, at this point, really cares about seeing Anthony Davis. The talent he possesses is very much going unnoticed and I don't see his First Round performance as some transcendent moment in his career.
We'll see how his value off-the-court progresses, but he is currently no more marketable than players like Steph Curry or James Harden.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:28 pm to CocoLoco
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Dude he's "The Brow" he's like a badass boss on a video game. He's extremely marketable. I don't think some of you guys understand how popular this guy is going to be over the next few years.
Curry is up there because he's relatable. Smaller guy tearing up the NBA makes people picture themselves doing so. They can relate to the average looking dude. People like Lebron and AD are genetic freaks. Not as relatable, but people still want to see it. They are like superhumans. That's how AD is marketed; the brow, with a ridiculous wingspan. On top of that, he's also a good dude.
when a guy's unibrow is his most well known and marketable feature, you have a problem. AD is without a doubt the #1 or 2 pick in a hypothetical redraft, but he doesn't have that "it" factor that would make him the face of the nba. Curry really doesn't either, but Curry's game and skills are more marketable, he is on the best team, and the splash brothers is an easier sell than "the brow". I'm not saying i'd rather have curry on my team, but as the face of the nba and as a superstar, curry has more going for him than AD. Neither guy has anywhere near the it factory of a lebron, kobe or jordan.
edit- i agree with the guy above, the casual fan would much rather see Curry play than AD
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:33 pm to hoopsgalore
Have at it
I'm kinda busy at the moment, but there are several others. Again, I'm not saying he is currently the best, but he holds the most value and will eventually be the best.
I'm kinda busy at the moment, but there are several others. Again, I'm not saying he is currently the best, but he holds the most value and will eventually be the best.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:45 pm to CocoLoco
When did I argue Anthony Davis' trade value? That's exactly what that article is. I've acknowledged that he is one of the best players in the NBA right now and has a chance to be the best in the coming years. In a shortened version, that is what Bill Simmons says.
This doesn't really discount my contention (and opinion) that Anthony Davis isn't the stud the NBA needs to be its face. He doesn't come across as more marketable than players like James Harden or Steph Curry. He just doesn't. Outside of the Pelicans fan base, Anthony Davis isn't must-see television.
Anyway, if a Bill Simmons article about trade value is all you have, then... well, I don't know.
ETA: I'm not even sure you understand my argument. I'm not contending that Anthony Davis won't be the best player. I just don't see him as a player that will be looked at by the higher-ups as someone that needs to be the face of the NBA much like LeBron James currently is. Not enough people care. It sucks, but that's the way it is for Anthony Davis right now.
This doesn't really discount my contention (and opinion) that Anthony Davis isn't the stud the NBA needs to be its face. He doesn't come across as more marketable than players like James Harden or Steph Curry. He just doesn't. Outside of the Pelicans fan base, Anthony Davis isn't must-see television.
Anyway, if a Bill Simmons article about trade value is all you have, then... well, I don't know.
ETA: I'm not even sure you understand my argument. I'm not contending that Anthony Davis won't be the best player. I just don't see him as a player that will be looked at by the higher-ups as someone that needs to be the face of the NBA much like LeBron James currently is. Not enough people care. It sucks, but that's the way it is for Anthony Davis right now.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:51 pm to hoopsgalore
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ETA: I'm not even sure you understand my argument. I'm not contending that Anthony Davis won't be the best player. I just don't see him as a player that will be looked at by the higher-ups as someone that needs to be the face of the NBA much like LeBron James currently is. Not enough people care. It sucks, but that's the way it is for Anthony Davis right now.
He doesn't understand your argument, you and I are talking about off court marketability and he is talking about on court value, which neither of us are disputing.
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