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re: If Floyd Mayweather retired tomorrow

Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:37 am to
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:37 am to
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He's one of the best, but I'm not saying he's the best. I'm too young to know about boxing when it was at its peak like my dad. He just tells me about all these old time boxers who he claims are the best ever.


Sugar Ray Robinson was really really good.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:37 am to
Roy Jones Jr. At his peak was >>>>> maywweather
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:37 am to
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Make an argument.


Muhamed Ali. Discredit him....
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:38 am to
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Roy Jones Jr. At his peak was >>>>> maywweather


More entertaining, but not the better fighter. Mayweather has all the talent of Jones, and he's technically sound to boot. Like, really really technically sound.
Posted by Kracka
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:39 am to
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Roy Jones Jr. At his peak was >>>>> maywweather


I was about to edit my post to add Roy Jones Jr. Even though he got knocked the frick out a couple times late in his career. I have always thought he was a better fighter than Money.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:40 am to
I just cannot give him a pass for not fighting the best fighters in his day. Many of the past greats have losses for doing this. I feel like Floyd ducked some fights.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:40 am to
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Muhamed Ali. Discredit him....



The 1960's version of Clay/Ali is tough to discredit. He's in the conversation.

But he did get knocked down by Henry Cooper. I'll hold that against him.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:40 am to
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I feel like Floyd ducked some fights.


But did he actually?
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:42 am to
I cannot prove he did, but can you equally prove he did not?
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:42 am to
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I was about to edit my post to add Roy Jones Jr. Even though he got knocked the frick out a couple times late in his career. I have always thought he was a better fighter than Money.


The thing that Roy had was that he was just so goddamn quick. This made up for the fact that he was technically unsound. Not merely unorthodox...but technically unsound. I mean, the guy did't throw jabs. At all.

So onece he lost even a little bit of that quickness, he was done.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:43 am to
Yes, he did. Floyd constantly ducked fights.

Not only that, he's fighting at a time when boxing is at its weakest IN HISTORY.

Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, Roy Jones were all easily better fighters in their prime.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:44 am to
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Shouldn't have pussied out of the pacquio fight


This is why I can't rate him that high......
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:44 am to
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I cannot prove he did, but can you equally prove he did not?


I'll speculate that his blood testing requests for Pacquiao were rooted in more than just speculation. He knew Pac was juicing.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:45 am to
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Not only that, he's fighting at a time when boxing is at its weakest IN HISTORY.


You can't hold it against him that he was miles better than everybody else. This is actually an argument for him.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:45 am to
Not even the Pac fight. There are other contenders they he has ducked before, and if he doesn't retire I'm sure they'll be more.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:47 am to
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quote: If Floyd Mayweather retired tomorrow


he would be broke by Monday


Dammit I came to post this
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:48 am to
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we'll never know that and you cannot say that with any authority.



and sorry my man, his resume DOES matter.

saying it doesnt is flat out asinine


No, it doesn't. There are two ways you cam compare athletes. You can compare career accomplishments, or you can simply look to how good they were. I thought that the "how good was he" part was implicit in the phrase "best pound-for-pound fighter". Otherwise, I would have set it up as an Alien Test.
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 10:50 am
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:48 am to
His adamant attempt in order to evade Pacquiao will forever be a stain that I certainly cannot overlook. When you beat your girlfriend up in order to be that committed to dodging a fight, I can't ignore that.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:52 am to
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His adamant attempt in order to evade Pacquiao will forever be a stain that I certainly cannot overlook. When you beat your girlfriend up in order to be that committed to dodging a fight, I can't ignore that.


Why does Mayweather get painted as the bad guy in that situation? The guy has demanded Olympic style drug testing for all of his fights. Pac wouldn't go for it because he was pumped full of PEDs, and this constitutes Mayweather ducking Pac?
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 10:53 am
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27168 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:56 am to
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The guy has demanded Olympic style drug testing for all of his fights


Link?

There is even accounts of Mayweather not even undergoing the same Olympic style testing himself.

quote:

Pac wouldn't go for it because he was pumped full of PEDs, and this constitutes Mayweather ducking Pac?



Link?

This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 11:00 am
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