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Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:49 pm to wildtigercat93
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Montana never lost a Super Bowl.
Montana never played in five super bowls either.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:49 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Montana isn't the greatest QB
debatable.
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and Brady has already passed him
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:50 pm to wildtigercat93
I think that your level of emotional investment in the Pats is causing you to misinterpret my posts in this thread. I'd be defending Brady had Evans actually made that catch. I'm mocking the hypocrisy of that "field general" "winning is all that matters" crowd. Brady should be on any GOAT short list and is obviously a fantastic football player
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:51 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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And it's not even necessarily a joke; it's meant to mock the painfully idiotic mongoloids on here who attribute team accomplishments to individuals
right, I'm Brady is the GOAT because Adam Vinateri made FG's in the driving snow and Drew Bledsoe played well in the AFC CG.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:52 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Winning is everything. The QB is the field general of a football team. The more successful the team is because of the QB, the more the QB should be credited as being superior when compared to other QBs that have achieved less with their teams.
It's not that silly.
You're right, that's not silly, that's fricking retarded.
Are you saying Vinateri made those big FG's in 2001 because Brady was his QB?
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:52 pm to H-Town Tiger
It's absurd that a kicker making or missing a kick can somehow define a QBs legacy as either a "choker" or a "winner". Eli became better than Peyton yesterday because the SF return man fumbled and the Giants kicker hit a FG. Real fricking logical. This place is starting to make me bitter apparently
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:54 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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I think that your level of emotional investment in the Pats is causing you to misinterpret my posts in this thread. I'd be defending Brady had Evans actually made that catch. I'm mocking the hypocrisy of that "field general" "winning is all that matters" crowd. Brady should be on any GOAT short list and is obviously a fantastic football player
Of course this is subjective and opinion based...I was just defending my rationale for determining the GOAT. I do not invalidate others opinions as long as they are willing to defend their logic and opinion. It's amazing how some are so quick to criticize someone's opinion without stating their own.
but whatever.
This post was edited on 1/23/12 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:55 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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It's absurd that a kicker making or missing a kick can somehow define a QBs legacy as either a "choker" or a "winner". Eli became better than Peyton yesterday because the SF return man fumbled and the Giants kicker hit a FG. Real fricking logical. This place is starting to make me bitter apparently
Stupidity makes me mad too, maybe I should not hang around here so much
The sad part is the simpletons will say, why yes, Brady's a winner because he got his team in FG range in SB 36 and Vinateria made a long FG, but Jim Kelly is a loser for doing the same thing and Norwood missed it.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:56 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Are you saying Vinateri made those big FG's in 2001 because Brady was his QB?
If you think Vinateri would have been in a position to make those big kicks without Brady, then someone else maybe retarded.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:59 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The sad part is the simpletons will say, why yes, Brady's a winner because he got his team in FG range in SB 36 and Vinateria made a long FG, but Jim Kelly is a loser for doing the same thing and Norwood missed it.
So, your saying Jim Kelly should be considered with Montana and Brady?
I'm all ears.
This post was edited on 1/23/12 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:03 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Brady has already passed him
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:04 pm to wildtigercat93
After brady wins this yesr snd wijd another one. Wgich will happen hell be greatest of all time
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:06 pm to H-Town Tiger
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This place is starting to make me bitter apparently
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Stupidity makes me mad too, maybe I should not hang around here so much
I feel I have called someone a fricking moron in half of my posts.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:06 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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If you think Vinateri would have been in a position to make those big kicks without Brady, then someone else maybe retarded
That's not the point, the point is you are changing your opinion of Brady based on whether Vinateria makes a kick or not, that all just proves its a, get ready for it a TEAM GAME.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:07 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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Eli became better than Peyton yesterday
I would bet not one person said this and meant it.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:08 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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You are one of the least intelligent people on this site.
RIght......
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:08 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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So, your saying Jim Kelly should be considered with Montana and Brady?
Nope, but you are too stupid to realize things aren't either or.
The point is Kelly did the EXACT same thing in SB 25 that Brady did in SB 36, to say Kelly is a loser or choker because of a missed FG is just stupid.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:10 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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So, your saying Jim Kelly should be considered with Montana and Brady? I'm all ears.
You are so dense. Brady is great because of his individual accomplishments, not because of his team's success. Obviously, Brady has been a gigantic factor in the Patriots' dominance in the past decade (or at least most of the decade).
Why should Brady's abilities be influenced by Adam Vinatieri?
Why should Jim Kelly's abilities be influenced by Scott Norwood?
To you, the kickers somehow affect the QB's abilities and how much of a "winner" they are. However, whether or not the kick ends up like Cundiff's shank and Tynes's blast through the uprights does not affect the performances of Flacco and Smith, respectively.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That's not the point, the point is you are changing your opinion of Brady based on whether Vinateria makes a kick or not, that all just proves its a, get ready for it a TEAM GAME.
I GET IT! It's a very subjective topic. How exactly do you determine the GOAT? There is no "right" way. If you have a better way, then please say so, otherwise....
Seriously, who do you consider the GOAT (QB)?
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