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re: I fully support only conference champions now.

Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:02 am to
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:02 am to
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But it penalized Auburn for losing a game when they already beat bama and Georgia.

Auburn was penalized by having the privilege of representing the west? It sucks that Bama got the conference championship off and benefited from it, but using them as tbe primary case against the current format is absurd.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:02 am to
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why? if anything this shows the committee got it right. Twice now a non conf champ has came out the best team.


How long before teams "sit out" the conference championship game because it can only hurt their chances?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:03 am to
It hasn’t worked out twice for tOSU in 15 they were the best team but got left out.

Hocutt has screwed this thing up so bad. He needs to be tarred and feathered.
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:05 am to
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How long before teams "sit out" the conference championship game because it can only hurt their chances?



would be dumb, because then you are depending on other teams to win for you, and then hope the committee likes you
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:05 am to
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in 15 they were the best team


Says who?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:08 am to
Says the polls and the NFL GM’s
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 9:09 am
Posted by Bonkers119
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:08 am to
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Come up with a legitimate power ranking formula that takes into account strength of schedule and conference championship.


Almost sounds like the BCS...
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:09 am to
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Says the polls


The polls say they were the best in 2015? Link?

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and the NFL GM’s


That's some hard hitting proof you have there.
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:10 am to
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I fully support only conference champions now.



Either include the conference championship games in the playoff format or just get rid of them.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:10 am to
Would it though?

Auburn was ranked #2 before the championship game, you're telling me if they don't play another game they would have dropped in the rankings? Bama didn't play and they moved up. How is that fair?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:11 am to
They were top team much like Bama all year

Well go look at the draft class of that team. They had most players and most first rounders from a single team. Sorry you are using selective memory

But under the rules we were told at the time tOSU didn’t get in. But they magically switched with Hocutt?

My issue is with Hocutt not Bama
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 9:13 am
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:11 am to
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Auburn was ranked #2 before the championship game, you're telling me if they don't play another game they would have dropped in the rankings?


if they had said (we are sitting out) lol yes that would probably hurt them
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:12 am to
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Bama didn't play and they moved up. How is that fair?


how many loss did bama have?
how many did auburn have?
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:13 am to
Can't do that with the way college football is set up. But yeah the optics of it look very bad. Didnt win the division, let alone the conference..... but national champs.

Also, what would have happened had Auburn beat LSU?
They would have gone into the CCG at 11-1 after beating Bama, played an extra game and potentially get left out.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:15 am to
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They were top team much like Bama all year

Well go look at the draft class of that team. They had most players and most first rounders from a single team. Sorry you are using selective memory


How exactly does that make them the best team again? Clemson was undefeated, so they were worthy of being in. Bama was a one loss SEC champ, they deserved to be in. OU was a one loss conference champ, they deserved to be in. And Michigan State beat tOSU heads up and beat the #4 team in the conference championship game. How would you send tOSU in over them?

DO you ever post anything on this board that isn't stupid?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:22 am to
Tell me what is best team?

tOSU has best players so by that measure best team
Ranked top and defending champion so best

It was the same bias that made Clemson a 1 seed and got Bama in

I didn’t say tOSU deserved in but they were best team. Best team isn’t always the champion. Hocutt alone switched the metric. But are you just so bias and burying your head in sand about this?

The goal as we were told with Long and the committee when formed help find the National Champion not the best team. Hocutt moves it to find best team.

This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 9:24 am
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:22 am to
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Why though? The playoff worked. The best team won. I hate Alabama as much as anyone else, but I don't see the problem.
Sometimes the best team in march madness gets knocked out. They don't get a mulligan.

The problem is this: 1-loss UGA had to play an additional game against a top 4 team Auburn for the right to enter the playoff. Bama went straight into the playoff without the risk of that additional game. That's not an equitable path to the playoff but I don't know a great way to avoid it either.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:25 am to
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Tell me what is best team?



The one that won the championship. You definitively said they were the best and got left out. You have absolutely no proof of that.

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tOSU has best players so by that measure best team
Ranked top and defending champion so best


I guess LSU should have all the national championships from the last few years since we have the most current NFL players.

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It was the same bias that made Clemson a 1 seed and got Bama in



No it isn't. They earned their way in on the field. If you want to say Bama didn't earn it this year, maybe you have a point. in 2015? GTFO.

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I didn’t say tOSU deserved in but they were best team


That's retarded.

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But are you just so bias and burying your head in sand about this?



I'm not biased at all. You're just speaking a bunch of nonsense.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:29 am to
What Championship did Bama earn or tOSU to be called best one of team in 17 or 15 to be included?

I am talking about this year moron using tOSU 15 as example how the goalpost moved

Again best players and most draft picks tells me they’re best team by talent
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 9:30 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:31 am to
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hat Championship did Bama earn or tOSU to be called best team in 17 or 15?



Is this English?

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I am talking about this year moron using tOSU 15 as example how the goalpost moved



Did it? tOSU benefited from the process last year,
and Bama did this year. Seems fairly consistent that they went with the team they thought was best.
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Again best players and most draft picks tells me they’re best team by talent




Woo, LSU is relevant again.
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