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re: How would Jordan's Bulls fare in today's NBA?
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:39 pm to VaeVictus
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:39 pm to VaeVictus
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Yeah, with no hand checking , he'd destroy modern defenses.
The partial zone makes a much bigger difference to a guy like Jordan than hand checking.
That was illegal in the 90s
That is the type of D Jordan faced
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 8:41 pm to Rankest
The 90s Bulls had a lot of size and athleticism. They also had a leader who demanded a lot from all the players on the team. That’s a recipe for success.
There are two scenarios in your hypothetical:
1. The Bulls are magically transported as they were and play today. They’d struggle because of 3 point shooting and their defensive effort might get them into trouble. Over time they’d improve and be pretty good.
2. The same Bulls players are born in the 90s and 2000s and form a modern team training like players do today. They’d be incredible.
There are two scenarios in your hypothetical:
1. The Bulls are magically transported as they were and play today. They’d struggle because of 3 point shooting and their defensive effort might get them into trouble. Over time they’d improve and be pretty good.
2. The same Bulls players are born in the 90s and 2000s and form a modern team training like players do today. They’d be incredible.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 8:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
They couldn't shoot 3s well enough to keep up
They didn’t shoot many, but the 96 Bulls shot just over 40% from three. The league average this year is 35%.
They didn’t shoot many, but the 96 Bulls shot just over 40% from three. The league average this year is 35%.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 8:53 pm to Tigerfan1274
Lotta young folks in here just don’t know how good Jordan was. I hated the guy but he was that good. His mental toughness would shite all over the new wussies in the league now
Posted on 1/30/26 at 9:11 pm to AldousSnow26
Negative. You don’t think Jordan and Pippen wouldn’t have developed 3 pt
Shots if they played today?
Please..
Shots if they played today?
Please..
Posted on 1/30/26 at 9:19 pm to Rankest
Those guys today, I mean today at age 60 could beat the Pelicans asses
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 1/30/26 at 9:23 pm to Rankest
69-13
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 11:39 pm to Rankest
Playoff team in the East. Lottery team in the West
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:06 am to thegambler
quote:Guys today run more and play at a faster pace.
Teams today would have to adjust to defense and hustle.
quote:Are you under the impression that Michael Jordan was not carrying on every dribble like players today?
Plus if everyone was allowed to travel, carry and shoot unattended.
If we dropped them into the league today, they would be a solid 6-7 seed type team. Not nearly enough shooting to compete for a championship.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:11 am to lsufan112001
quote:No, we are. A lot of the older guys just don't understand how much the game has evolved on both ends over just the last 5 years, much less 30.
Lotta young folks in here just don’t know how good Jordan was. I hated the guy but he was that good.
quote:This stuff is so tired.
His mental toughness would shite all over the new wussies in the league now
Posted on 1/31/26 at 4:31 am to PP7 for heisman
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Guys today run more and play at a faster pace.
Jordan and Pippen, in their prime, would be top 5 athletes in the NBA today. They would be very similar to Brown and Tatum, as far as a dominant wing pair that are switchable on defense. But they would be more dominant on both ends. Those two would be great in today's game. I'm skeptical how the remainder of the team translates to today's game, especially someone like Rodman. I don't see him making it through the year unscathed.
They would no doubt have to adapt and shoot more 3s. That would hurt them. But they would be a top defensive team and they never sat healthy players. So, theyd be solid. Them against OKC would be interesting. .
Posted on 1/31/26 at 6:52 am to PP7 for heisman
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Are you under the impression that Michael Jordan was not carrying on every dribble like players today?
Yeah I do love the revisionist history here.
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If we dropped them into the league today, they would be a solid 6-7 seed type team. Not nearly enough shooting to compete for a championship.
Yeah they'd be a playoff team but I doubt they'd be dominant or a real threat for a title
A lot of the people trying to argue otherwise concede this point by saying that they would have to completely change the way they play and develop skills they didn't have to compete. I assumed this discussion was about just dropping that team, their tactics, and their skills in the game today.
On the flip side, if you took a guy today and put him in the 90s, I don't think that sort of transition would be necessary. Now. The coach may get upset about them taking the threes, but the other skills translate. Skilled at driving and they would have a much more advantageous. Defensive system/style of which to attack in that era. It would be like Christmas for a lot of them
This post was edited on 1/31/26 at 6:53 am
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
This is where the debate is so fascinating. With all other sports the athletes have physically progressed over earlier eras. Athletes today are generally bigger, stronger, faster, quicker with better stamina and durability. That just isn't the case with basketball. It's always a skills debate. It's just weird. Guys today leave so much on the table and just aren't as devoted to the game. This really shouldn't be a debate. But it's just not as definitive as it should be..
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:16 am to brmark70816
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. With all other sports the athletes have physically progressed over earlier eras. Athletes today are generally bigger, stronger, faster, quicker with better stamina and durability. That just isn't the case with basketball.
On the average, it certainly is.
At the very top? Not so much.
But yes, skills today are miles ahead of in the past. The mental game, too.
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Guys today leave so much on the table and just aren't as devoted to the game.
I don't think this is correct. They wouldn't be so much more advanced in terms of skill/mental complexity.
For example, Jordan was in part an outlier due to his insane (For the time) training program. That's standard for everyone now.
Now, is it more of a j-o-b to the players and treated that way? Yes.
Do the players treat the NBA more rationally and less emotionally? Yes
Do the players have a better understanding of their value and take advantage of that? Yes
*ETA: what I'm getting at is the relational aspect has completely changed. There is a completely different relationship paradigm today with players and the teams, fans, other players, and the league itself.
This post was edited on 1/31/26 at 8:19 am
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:19 am to littleavery1948
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Not sure how spamming three point shots = better.
So you think every team in the league just randomly decided to start shooting more 3s, they didnt do it because it's better?
The warriors beating the breaks off everyone wasn't enough for you to see that shooting 3s > scoring 2s? You need to see it again?
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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Are you under the impression that Michael Jordan was not carrying on every dribble like players today?
While I think those Bulls teams would play very well today, MJ averaged more per carry than Barry Sanders.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:25 am to SlowFlowPro
Agreed. That era marked the beginning of the end for traditional centers- back to the basket, rim protectors. Now, there are 6'11 and up centers who can shoot , move and pass with athleticism.
Cartwright could not gaurd an athletic big man at the top of the key.
Cartwright could not gaurd an athletic big man at the top of the key.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:34 am to SabiDojo
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They would probably all foul out before halftime of every game
Jordan’s NBA was a much bigger deal than the current NBA, at least in the U.S.
Finals used to average high 20M to 30M. Now they are in the high single digits or low teens.
Point is that if Jordan was around today the NBA would make the rules to benefit him and the Bulls.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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For example, Jordan was in part an outlier due to his insane (For the time) training program. That's standard for everyone now.
I would have to see more evidence of this. Players that are truly dedicated stand out. Take the Thompson twins, who are just genetic freaks and physical powerhouses. They obviously take their training seriously and are marginally gifted players. But it's pretty rare, and when you see that kind of dedication, it's stands out.
I'm jaded as a Pelicans fan. I don't see that level of training from any of our players, maybe Bey or Alvarado. But when you have whole franchises that are physically weak, poorly conditioned, and just unprepared for rigorous play, it reflects on the sport as a whole. These aren't all scrubs. Some are highly regarded and have desirable trade values.
I know Rodman is a HOF player. But have you ever read about his training sessions? His stamina was otherworldly. If he wasn't so dirty and unhinged, he'd be insane in today's game. Compare him against a Josh Hart or Lou Dort? Forget about it.
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