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re: How overrated is Chris Bosh about to become?
Posted on 8/3/10 at 3:54 pm to dirtbag lsu
Posted on 8/3/10 at 3:54 pm to dirtbag lsu
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Dirk lead a team to the championship
How the frick does something that happened 5 years ago have any relevancy on who is currently better?
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Posted on 8/3/10 at 3:55 pm to Ghazi
I think Bosh is already overrated.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 3:57 pm to 1ranter1
This thread isn't about Dirk and Gasol anyway.
it's about the inevitable slurping of Chris Bosh as the best PF in the world after the Heat win 66-70 games.
But it's still Dirk for 1 more year.
it's about the inevitable slurping of Chris Bosh as the best PF in the world after the Heat win 66-70 games.
But it's still Dirk for 1 more year.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 4:02 pm to Ghazi
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We all know that Nowitzki has been the best PF in the universe for about 3-4 years now. And yet in recent years the opinion that Gasol is a better player surfaced ever since Gasol joined a stacked Lakers squad playing next to a top 3 player. Overall around the league most knowledgeable fans still take Dirk, but it's a legitimate debate (Gasol will probably surpass Dirk due to age in 1-2 years).
Going into next season I'd take Dirk first, but Bosh is up there with those two. I'd probably take him over Gasol to be honest as he was better as his team's #1 option IMO.
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Bosh is good, very good... Top 15-20 player, but I have a feeling he is about to become grossly overrated if this Heat team becomes a dynasty.
top 10 to 15 IMO
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On another note, despite having the 2 best players in the world, does anyone think that the Lakers can matchup well against this Heat team? Solid wing defenders + a huge frontline. Would rely on Bynum not being a pussy in the playoffs though.
I think the Heat will beat the Lakers easily in a 7 games series. 6 games at most, probably 5
Posted on 8/3/10 at 4:03 pm to Ghazi
i see what your saying and playing with two top stars will only make him look better,(see Tyson Chandler) but he is a good player, just not as good as Dirk.
There tends to be a lot of hate towards the new big three and honestly i get why but i also don't get why it's that big of a deal, especially since it has already happened in Boston without consequence.
There tends to be a lot of hate towards the new big three and honestly i get why but i also don't get why it's that big of a deal, especially since it has already happened in Boston without consequence.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 4:10 pm to Ghazi
"I heard what Chris Bosh said, and that's strong words coming from the RuPaul of big men," O'Neal said. "I'm going to do the same thing (in their next meeting) I did before - make him quit. Make 'em quit and complain. It's what I do."
Posted on 8/3/10 at 4:16 pm to LivinGoodTiger
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TIm Duncan
KArl Malone
Charles Barkley
Dirk
Kevin McHale
This is my top 5 exept I have Dirk slightly ahead of Barkley but its close.
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KEVIN GARNETT has a RING
Not even in the same class as the top 5.
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Nique was the best scoring PF
More of a hybrid, 6 boards a game for his career. Not better than Dirk anyway.
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Sooo many more I could name better then Dirk.
Lets see that list.....
Posted on 8/3/10 at 4:23 pm to bomber77
man, no way I could see ranking Dirk ahead of Barkley
Other than 3 pointers I think Barkley was clearly better in every way... and in terms of toughness? It's like comparing a Hummer with a Fiat
I don't see Dirk as a traditional power forward either... his greatness IMO all springs from being a superior 3 point shooter... he's more like a mini Larry Bird (with fewer points, steals, assists, and rebounds) than a Kevin McHale style power forward
Other than 3 pointers I think Barkley was clearly better in every way... and in terms of toughness? It's like comparing a Hummer with a Fiat
I don't see Dirk as a traditional power forward either... his greatness IMO all springs from being a superior 3 point shooter... he's more like a mini Larry Bird (with fewer points, steals, assists, and rebounds) than a Kevin McHale style power forward
Posted on 8/3/10 at 4:25 pm to Ghazi
I have no comment other than to welcome you back, GHAZI. The board is fufufufricked!
Posted on 8/3/10 at 4:29 pm to dirtbag lsu
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[quote]Gasol is better than Dirk,]
For the record I didn't say this.
Dirk will never be appreciated for how good he is by people who don't watch him play every night.
Yes, he is soft inside and he will back down from a fight but he plays his arse off every minute of every game. Most nights he is completely unstoppable.
He would be appreciated much more if he had ever played with a decent center. Imagine Robert Parish or Bill Russell clogging up the middle at both ends, allowing him to get open closer to the basket or helping him with quicker guys inside on defense. Jesus, he had to play with Shawn Bradley and Eric Dampier all these years.
His biggest perceived fault is his being soft. To be honest he is not the "hard" guy that a lot of people want in a seven footer. Hell, he doesn't have a mean bone in his body.
If he played for your team and you saw every game you would appreciate him more.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 4:34 pm to molsusports
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Other than 3 pointers I think Barkley was clearly better in every way...
Barkley was great but I think in "every way" is an exaggeration.
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and in terms of toughness?
Despite popular love of hating white players, Dirk is by no means a soft player. Especially in the playoffs, the guy is a warrior.
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I don't see Dirk as a traditional power forward
I agree with this. Might be the toughest 4 ever to match up with.
I sure wouldnt argue putting Barkley ahead of Dirk.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 6:29 pm to LivinGoodTiger
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TIm Duncan
KArl Malone
Charles Barkley
Dirk
Kevin McHale
Pettit > McHale
Posted on 8/3/10 at 6:40 pm to bomber77
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Not even in the same class as the top 5.
what?
kg > mchale and barkley
Posted on 8/3/10 at 6:41 pm to mattz1122
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Pettit
Better than anyone on the list.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 6:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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kg > mchale and barkley
Come on SFP, you dont even believe this!!
Posted on 8/3/10 at 6:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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kg > mchale and barkley
And even Hakeem.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 6:56 pm to bomber77
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Come on SFP, you dont even believe this!!
kg was the best defensive player in the NBA in his prime and he put up 20/10/5
barkely's defense was never close to kg's
compare kg's stats to mchale's
kg leads in PER, win shares/48, defensive win shares, offensive win shares, etc etc etc
Posted on 8/3/10 at 6:59 pm to tiger band trumpet
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I think Bosh is already overrated.
pretty much
Posted on 8/3/10 at 7:17 pm to bomber77
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Not even in the same class as the top 5.
You think Dirk is top 5 and KG isnt?
KG's best season 24.2 PPG, 13.9 RPG, 5 APG, 2.2 Blocks. With all around amazing defense.
Dirk's best season 26.1 PPG, 9.7 RPG, 3.1 APG, 1.5 blocks. With below average defense.
KG had 9 straight 20/10/4 seasons. While being one of the best (if not the best) defensive PF in the league.
KGs career >>>> Dirks career. Not even close.
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