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re: How many of you believe that professional sports are rigged?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:38 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:38 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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I believe the SEC is rigged for bama.
Well the schedules are definitely biased in favor of them.
As if they need help from the league office.
I think the ref issue is preconceptions - when you get a good reputation - the refs are blind - when you get a bad reputation - the refs see everything.
Raiders were always the most penalized team in the league because they had a bad reputation and refs thought they were always playing dirty - they got called for holding constantly.
Alabama has a good reputation with Saban and they've won a lot and the refs see professionalism and therefore are blind to all the holding Bama does.
All of are eyes are biased by what is processed through our brains based on preconceived ideas.
Now as for the other sports:
NBA and NASCAR, I think certain events are rigged for the storyline.
Two big examples, Kings vs. Lakers and Dale Jr. winning.
But it's not like these sports are rigged on a weekly basis but I'm sure there is pressure put on the refs to call certain games a certain way if they get out of hand.
I wish Tim Donaghy had gone into that besides just the gambling stuff. I bet he probably worried about being killed. So instead when we question why games were wonky and weird - all the blame was put on him and just gambling with no connection to Commish and the league.
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:38 pm to oleyeller
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Too many would have to be involved, and thats risking too much to lose all their viewers if it were found out.
Whaa? You don’t think officials can play a role in affecting outcomes with plausible Deniability? Especially in the NBA?
Hate to be a homer, but look at the free throw disparity in the NOLA GS series. The Pelicans didn’t just suddenly forget how to play defense.
And I point you to last seasons Saints Lions game. The Saints blew out the Lions in the first half, and then the officials took over and allowed the Lions back in that game. 3 illegal procedure penalties in a row on a punt? Two TD drives by the Lions extended by penalties, one twice? A game that the networks were clicking off of suddenly because must see tv.
So yes I do believe that officials are instructed to keep games close of five preferential treatment to certain marketable teams/stars.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:43 pm to elprez00
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Too many would have to be involved, and thats risking too much to lose all their viewers if it were found out.
Everyone always says this.
It's so untrue about conspiracy.
Conspiracy is a crime that involves 2 or more people by definition.
It doesn't take a whole lot to call a game in the NBA and keep it close. A private meeting with Stern or just a discussion in a room. You want a job, keep the games close, this is entertainment.
They are part of they system, part of the conspiracy, what's to expose? Losing their job?
You don't need the entire league to fix an NBA game - you need a couple of people who have a mandate and it might be in their employment contract, remember the mandate or goal of the NBA while officiating...none is the wiser because nobody can tell what is and what isn't a foul in the NBA.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:22 pm to DirtyMike
I still think the 01 NFCCG was rigged. And when Ohio State beat Wisconsin 59-0.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:39 pm to elprez00
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And I point you to last seasons Saints Lions game. The Saints blew out the Lions in the first half, and then the officials took over and allowed the Lions back in that game. 3 illegal procedure penalties in a row on a punt? Two TD drives by the Lions extended by penalties, one twice? A game that the networks were clicking off of suddenly because must see tv
so you believe in game... the call came down to the officials to "improve the game because people were turning the channel"
tinfoil hat [on] off
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So yes I do believe that officials are instructed to keep games close of five preferential treatment to certain marketable teams/stars.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:51 pm to oleyeller
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oleyeller
Bro you are wasting your time trying to talk logic to guys like that
I mean it has to be the “league”’ wanted to keep it close, not you know the Saints actually committed a penalty
It’s just t hilarious the way people will find patterns and narratives in anything. Next thing you’ll been trying to explain to no wearing his lucky boxers is not why his team win
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:54 pm to Bestbank Tiger
They try to influence the outcome but it isn't predetermined who will win.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:55 pm to DirtyMike
Don’t believe leagues rig games but I certainly think players and officials manipulate outcomes for betting purposes from time to time.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:56 pm to DirtyMike
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:57 pm to pioneerbasketball
Well that was a work.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:00 pm to castorinho
That's true about the juice but they were making money hand over fist when they didn't even charge juice back in the day. A 100 dollar bet was 100 dollars.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:14 pm to volfan30
When I was in my early 20's, I used to believe that most professional sports were scripted. If the Celtics were 0-2 to the lakers, then Bird and Mchale would go off for two games and even the series.
Who really thought LeBron and the Cavs were going down 0-3 last night ? I am not suggesting a fix. I don't believe fixing is happening now that I am older. You could see the storyline that the Cavs and LeBron were done and ESPN radio analysts were doubting LeBron and then Boom ! Cavs win by 30 at home. It's like a soap Opera.
Who really thought LeBron and the Cavs were going down 0-3 last night ? I am not suggesting a fix. I don't believe fixing is happening now that I am older. You could see the storyline that the Cavs and LeBron were done and ESPN radio analysts were doubting LeBron and then Boom ! Cavs win by 30 at home. It's like a soap Opera.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:32 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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You don't need the entire league to fix an NBA game - you need a couple of people who have a mandate and it might be in their employment contract, remember the mandate or goal of the NBA while officiating...none is the wiser because nobody can tell what is and what isn't a foul in the NBA.
It “fix” a game yes. To predetermine the championship or even multiple games along the way would require more than 1 or 2 people taking orders from David Stern. There is simply no way they could keep it quite (see watergate, Irancontra or the freaking mafia itself) someone would have talked by now, some physical evidence would exist. For frick sake the FBI stumbled into NCAA basketball recruiting violations you think they wouldn’t have accidentally come across something that showed the NBA was rigged by now? Now that’s naive
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:41 pm to DirtyMike
No way MLB is rigged, you think they’d have let the Stros run through Boston, NYY and the Dodgers in one post-season!
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:41 pm to karmew32
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The kick is clearly inside the post. This one's been talked about a lot, so no need to further elaborate on it. This probably gets called good if Alabama won the GoTC.
Here's the problem calling out "rigged" events and I'll use the above example:
To believe the above is actually true, you have to believe that at the one ref standing under the goal post in which the kick passed was on the take...and all the events proceeding that particular play had to play out just right for that one ref to make that call on that play in that situation.
It'd take Walter White levels of math to calculate the odds. I mean, what was this ref doing when Oklahoma State was crushing Iowa State 24-7? Why did he let the game get so one-sided in the first place?
TL;DR Pure lunacy to believe such tripe
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:45 pm to Klingler7
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When I was in my early 20's, I used to believe that most professional sports were scripted. If the Celtics were 0-2 to the lakers, then Bird and Mchale would go off for two games and even the series.
1984 went to game 7...with each team getting a blowout win and each team with the Celtics getting 2 OT wins...while the Lakers had 2 blowout wins.
1987 Lakers blow out the Celtics in games 1 and 2.
Then the Celtics win by 6 points in Game 3.
So now it's not 3-0 it's 2-1.
Then the Lakers win by 1 point in Game 4 despite the refs efforts.
So now it's 3-1.
And then Celtics blow out the Lakers in Game 5 getting all the fouls...
And then LA won Game 6 to clinch the series.
I don't think Stern wanted this going back to Boston. Magic was the biggest star in the NBA at the time.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:45 pm to Klingler7
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This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:22 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Professional Wrestling has predetermined outcomes. MMA or UFC is fixed also or I should say they have scripted matches with pre-determined outcomes.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:03 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
The NBA comes off as getting involved in individual games.
The Lakers shooting 27 free throws in the 4th quarter against the Kings is just absurd
Miami and Dallas games. Free throws once again. You could t Touch Wade with a finger
Not to even mention Jordan on getting suspended. Although the nba didn’t cheat. But he did
The Lakers shooting 27 free throws in the 4th quarter against the Kings is just absurd
Miami and Dallas games. Free throws once again. You could t Touch Wade with a finger
Not to even mention Jordan on getting suspended. Although the nba didn’t cheat. But he did
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:05 pm to DirtyMike
At a certain point in every sport, the talent level is so even that minor adjustments or simple mistakes can easily sway the results.
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