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re: How good can Nikola Mirotic be?

Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17098 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:33 pm to
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What are you even talking about? Have you ever watched a basketball game? Do you think the Splash Bros play the whole 4th quarter when they are winning by 20 points?


Apparently, you are having a hard time with the word "regularity".
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:38 pm to
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While wiggins wasn't the man on KU's team

Please get the frick out of here with your ignorant bullshite.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:41 pm to
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im not even one to say shite like this, but I've ran circles around you in this thread, correcting at least 4 of your misinformative points


No the only thing you've corrected is on Mirotic's euro career. You call him a 24 year old(birthday in February), but Wiggins is a 19 year old for the most part (Also in February).

Lester by your own admission, you need to be woken up when the conference finals happen.That alone speaks to your attention when it comes to the NBA.
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But of course you revert to attacks when proven wrong. Kinda sad

:lol: You ignore the fact the when adjusted for minutes/possessions- Nikola outperforms Wiggins

It's intellectually dishonest to the argument when failing to recognize this.

Wiggins is a limited offensive player who's TS is lower gets to the line at a lower rate and even assists AS A frickING GUARD at a lower rate than the power forward in question.

So while you're "running" around me, you're failing to see the forest for the trees about Mirotic, who btw, if you haven't googled him today, Ball Don't Lie gives both the positive and negatives for him

This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36302 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:45 pm to
This thread has been entertaining. Burgundy's incessant defense of his "real basketball knowledge" drew a chuckle.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110703 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:47 pm to
Putme on team Lester Earl.

And I like Mirotic
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 7:50 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110703 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:49 pm to
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This thread has been entertaining. Burgundy's incessant defense of his "real basketball knowledge" drew a chuckle. 
it's definitely a telling sign.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:19 pm to
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Apparently, you are having a hard time with the word "regularity".


Not at all. If 1 out of every 4 games is a sealed affair by the point in the 4th quarter(very reasonable for a good team) they get 25% less 4th quarter minutes. That's huge.

It is by no means insignificant. It doesn't have a huge effect on total game averages except for extremely good teams(Warriors) because it can be distributed out over 4 quarters. Not that big of a percentage change. But typical minutes for a starter is the entire 3rd quarter(or most of it), sit the first 3-6 minutes of the 4th, and come in. So when you only play the last 6-9 minutes of the 4th even in close games, that's a big deal when every few games you get sat for the last half of the 4th. It is far from insignificant.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:21 pm to
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No the only thing you've corrected is on Mirotic's euro career. You call him a 24 year old(birthday in February), but Wiggins is a 19 year old for the most part (Also in February).


The difference between a 19 year old and 20 year old is significant and worth nitpicking over/mentioning. The difference between a 23 and 24 year old is not.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278244 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:34 pm to
Just to be clear, are you arguing Mirotic has been better this year, or that he has more upside going forward, or both?


Btw the article you linked has no good info. In fact it raises the same questions I have about Mirotic
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17098 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:53 pm to
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If 1 out of every 4 games is a sealed affair by the point in the 4th quarter(very reasonable for a good team).


Not even close.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57351 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:17 pm to
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Leading the NBA in 4th Q scoring since March 1st


A bunch of meaningless junk points.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31542 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:21 pm to
He's got the kind of game that will age well.


He will be a good player for awhile
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110703 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 7:33 am to
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Not even close
They are for Golden State, I think that's where that part of the debate originated from.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17098 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:25 am to
His "point" is that teams are playing a significant number of games that are over before the 4th to the point that "star" players aren't seeing the floor at all...that number is not 25%. He is using the only team in the league that may be applicable to make a larger point.
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