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re: How exactly was the 80-90s NBA better than current? Talent wise
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:38 am to bobbyray21
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:38 am to bobbyray21
Last day of the 78" season George Gervin was ahead of David Thompson by 14 total points.Thompson scored 73 points.Gervin scored 63 later that day to win the Scoring Title by .07 points a game.
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:40 am to Prominentwon
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he would be looking for his tag team partner somewhere to get the hell out of the game.
I don't get why this is a bad thing? It's not his fault he was born when he was. If he played back then, he would have played the same way everyone else did. But he plays now...so this is all a really dumb, pointless argument when it comes to that.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:41 am to VermilionTiger
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Is it the typical "old will always be better than new" thinking?
I think the rule changes are big. The physicality that was allowed in the 80s-90s let slower, less athletic but fundamentally sound players do well in the league. The league has basically traded out slow guys that can shoot for fast/athletic guys that can dunk on fast breaks. As a Pelicans fan I'd much rather see a good shooting SF that could use strength to be good enough on defense than Al Farouq Aminu who's decent on defense but kills the team on offense.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:41 am to Prominentwon
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I would LOVE to see what kind of offensive player he would have been against guys like Lambeer.
Lebron does that shite, because it works usually. All those guys back in the day would be doing it now. If you put Lebron back then, I don't see how it would be a disadvantage....he is more physically gifted then almost all of those guys. You let him hack the shite out of everyone and handcheck and he would have been the best defender in the league easily back then. Him getting slammed to the ground on his usual freight train to the lane plays...... he would have just had to adjust to that. Jordan Did. And while Jordan was more skilled then Lebron, I think you would agree that Lebron is more physically gifted size and strength wise.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:41 am to Prominentwon
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Seriously, the way Magic used to beg for fouls and whine to the officials, is a lot like the players of today
FIFY
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:42 am to jacks40
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With his size strength and speed he would be able to dish out physical play like few others could 30 years ago.
There were people as big and bigger than him back then so to say "like few others could" is a stretch.
Malone, Mchale, Rodman, all great power forwards that could match up well against LBJ in their prime.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:43 am to VermilionTiger
Think about it like this. In 1992 for example, there were 6-8 teams that were legitimate championship contenders.
This season there 3 legitimate championship contenders
This season there 3 legitimate championship contenders
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:43 am to tidalmouse
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Last day of the 78" season George Gervin was ahead of David Thompson by 14 total points.Thompson scored 73 points.Gervin scored 63 later that day to win the Scoring Title by .07 points a game.
Thompson would have scored 78, but he had to leave the game a few times to go put some of that cizzell in his nizzell.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:44 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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It wasn't. Probably had better Centers. That is about it.
Probably?
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:46 am to tidalmouse
It was just very different then.When players entered the NBA Draft they were usually well known from College Bball.Especially the Tournament.There were only 2 or 3 players that had come straight out of High School and they were grown men at 18.Moses Malone.Daryl Dawkins.
eta:Yeah,that was back in the day when we thought cocaine was good for you.
eta:Yeah,that was back in the day when we thought cocaine was good for you.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 10:49 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:48 am to tidalmouse
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There were only 2 or 3 players that had come straight out of High School and they were grown men at 18.Moses Malone.Daryl Dawkins.
Shawn "I have 30 children with 19 different women" Kemp
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:51 am to stout
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There were people as big and bigger than him back then so to say "like few others could" is a stretch.
You tell me this then as a example throw out 3 hall of famers?
Don't give me the outliers give me the players who represented the average players of the time that make my statement " like few others" false
ETA and Mchale is giving like 50 pounds to Lebron. He was a great player but not exactly the guy you want to use as an example of more physical player who would make James cry uncle
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 10:54 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:52 am to stout
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Malone, Mchale, Rodman, all great power forwards that could match up well against LBJ in their prime.
The fact that you think Mchale could match up with Lebron James physically says a lot. and I respect the hell out of Mchale. But, he does not match up with him at all. Malone is too slow. Rodman would give him fits, I'll give you that one.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:56 am to Palm Beach Tiger
I hated McHale but I respected the way Boston played defense. That's the only reason he would have a shot.
Malone was always on the top defensive lists just because of how physical he was. Speed is very important today but again when you are talking about play back then speed was somewhat eliminated due to hand checking and the physical play.
Malone was always on the top defensive lists just because of how physical he was. Speed is very important today but again when you are talking about play back then speed was somewhat eliminated due to hand checking and the physical play.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:57 am to jacks40
It's tough for me to try and say how someone would have done in a different.Obviously Lebron would be great in any era.
Before Magic,your height and build determined the position you played.Coaches would have tried to convince Lebron he was a power forward just because he was the biggest guy on his team.
eta:Shawn Kemp is another one that was NBA ready at 18.
Barkley sayes that Kevin McHale is the best player he ever played against.
Before Magic,your height and build determined the position you played.Coaches would have tried to convince Lebron he was a power forward just because he was the biggest guy on his team.
eta:Shawn Kemp is another one that was NBA ready at 18.
Barkley sayes that Kevin McHale is the best player he ever played against.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:02 am to stout
Mchale would get ran over by James. Malone would have to much trouble staying with him. Again, Rodman would probably frustrate the shite out of him.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:05 am to tidalmouse
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Barkley sayes that Kevin McHale is the best player he ever played against.
It's amazing to see him get no respect here. He was as physical as anyone.
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Mchale would get ran over by James. Malone would have to much trouble staying with him.
Again, the game was slower and more physical then. It's why guys like Laimbeer and McHale were so effective. They wouldn't be a factor in todays game though.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 11:07 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:07 am to stout
McHale is a great player, so I don't want to shite on him. I'm just saying he doesn't match up with Lebron James physically. and I think that is equivalent to saying the sky is blue. Kevin was crafty as Hell, and that would be where he would use his strengths against a guy like James.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:08 am to Prominentwon
Jordan may not have begged but he expected to get the calls and when he didn't he had no problem letting the ref know he was Jordan and he should get all the calls.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:08 am to VermilionTiger
For starters most teams had a real center. I don't know if that is better, but the days of the pure center are gone - Ewing, Olajuwon, Robinson, etc.
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