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re: How does a college from Oregon have such a good football team every year?

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Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:18 pm to
They had pipelines into New Jersey Florida and California from Devaney.

They went after guys who were great I Backs or Option QB's

They redshirted everyone also.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:18 pm to
They dont need big bodies for their system. so size isnt an issue. I agree with SFP


but Mariotta was the number 12 Duel Threat in the country. he was a 3star but for a Hawaii kid thats a good ranking since its hard to rank those guys. I wouldnt say he was a "nobody"


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:19 pm to
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How did a school like Nebraska build a program from nothing to a powerhouse?

they've been good since the 70s, and were one of the golden programs back when only 1-2 games came on tv (that means they were a national brand and had huge advantages over all but a very small number of teams)

those who "got in" early have benefited an insane amount in modern times
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:19 pm to
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they recruit a system that allows them to take underrated (typicaly due to size) players

mariotta was a nobody 2 or 3 star recruit

lamichael james was a 3-star who wasn't heavily recruited b/c he was small as frick

pretty sure dion jordan was not a big recruit, but was a superb athlete with a good frame

So how do they turn 2 and 3 star-caliber athletes into great players?

Are their coaches just that much better than the rest of the country?
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:19 pm to
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UO gets talent, but if you look at a lot of their guys, they're not recruited by major schools


Maybe years ago, but there are in on a lot of guys who are wanted by others. Some fit the system, and that's what they want.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:20 pm to
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So how do they turn 2 and 3 star-caliber athletes into great players?

running the best spread option system in the country and playing a defense that allows their athletes to shine

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Are their coaches just that much better than the rest of the country?

their offensive system is awesome. are you really asking that question?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:20 pm to
All of those facilities are brand new.

Oregon has been good before all that.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:20 pm to
great points slow...they've done a great job developing the talent they brought in. Mike Bellotti deserves a ton of respect for what he did with that program.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:22 pm to
Oregon was built by Belotti. He expanded their base and started recruiting kids that people backed off due to grades etc.

Oregon copied Colorado basically. They just were smart and didn't take chances on extreme kids.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:22 pm to
1 they have talent

2 their offensive schemes are 1 read plays, runs or throws, and designed to get the ball to their playmakers in space. Plus the competition they play on D isnt the best.

they allow the D to decide the play and they just alway make the right reads.
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:22 pm to
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So how do they turn 2 and 3 star-caliber athletes into great players?


They don't really recruit 2* guys anymore. They want the elite. Old days is a different story.

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Are their coaches just that much better than the rest of the country?


They have good coaches, most of them have been around a long time. Not many programs have their stability.

Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:25 pm to
The other thing I think Oregon has done well is they take their show on the road. They'll play anywhere.
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:25 pm to
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It isn't exactly hard to get legally


Not arguing that.
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:26 pm to
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But the players couldn't smoke it even if it was.






This post was edited on 9/28/13 at 10:28 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:27 pm to
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but Mariotta was the number 12 Duel Threat in the country. he was a 3star but for a Hawaii kid thats a good ranking since its hard to rank those guys. I wouldnt say he was a "nobody"

his only other offers, per scout, were memphis, U-Dub (i'm sure as a WR/DB), and UO

the best offer LMJ got that wasn't from UO was probably MSU
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:27 pm to
So how exactly did they build the program from nothing?

They just recently got these nice facilities. So that hasn't even been really used as a recruiting tool yet.

How did they first get good players to come to Oregon?

I can understand a school like LSU building a program considering they are in a state with a lot of talent.

But how exactly did Oregon build from scratch and get a bunch of talent from California over schools like USC and UCLA?
This post was edited on 9/28/13 at 10:29 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:27 pm to
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quote: But the players couldn't smoke it even if it was.


The ATC can manipulate who takes drug tests.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:28 pm to
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his only other offers, per scout, were memphis, U-Dub (i'm sure as a WR/DB), and UO




I mean 1 reason is because teams dont think they can pull those hawaii kids.

Like I said I agree with everything you said in that post but Mariotta wasnt some tard that came in and they made awesome. He came in when some good tools.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:29 pm to
They copied Colorado and went into areas where schools wouldn't recruit due to clearinghouse.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 9/28/13 at 10:29 pm to
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I wouldnt say he was a "nobody"


Neither would I, or most imo.
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They dont need big bodies for their system.


They want bigger bodies, they aren't set on little people. In the past they worked with the dealt hand. They develop players very well, but they want the best like anyone else.
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