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re: How did the Indy Punt returner have possession but Dez Bryant didn't?

Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:58 pm to
All replays should go to NY
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:59 pm to
wow, throwing shite at the wall.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:59 pm to
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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:59 pm to
As far as what constitutes possession, yes. Cribs possessed it, was hit, hit the ground, then the ball came out. Down by contact, Indy ball. It's incredibly simple to see.

I mean different as in he didn't have to take two steps are make a football move. He just needed control of the ball when he was hit. Which he had.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 6:01 pm
Posted by jimithing11
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:02 pm to
It's mind blowing how little this board understands the rules of a game they're obsessed with
Posted by angryslugs
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:04 pm to


Are these the first two football games you've ever watched?
Posted by fleaux
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:04 pm to
Phil Simms compared it to a catch over the middle, but he's never been one to have a full grasp of the rules anyway
Posted by lsusportsman2
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:04 pm to
Legit question asked by the OP. Can't really answer your question other than referees are fricking idiots. Dallas and Denver got fricking screwed. Big time.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:05 pm to
Or OP doesn't understand the rules and both call were correct.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:05 pm to
It's a punt, not a pass dummy.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:06 pm to
Yeah and @ Mike Carey

Not only was he wrong but he demonstrated a clear lack of knowledge as it pertains to the basic rules of football

Glad he's not fricking over teams anymore
Posted by fleaux
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

Can't really answer your question other than referees are fricking idiots. Dallas and Denver got fricking screwed. Big time.


Why would a punt returner have to gain possession the same way a receiver does ?
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:07 pm to
I obviously understand they're on different types of plays, I just don't understand why one of them had possession but the other didn't when they are both catching the ball. I'm biased, and it's just my opinion, but I thought Dez had control for a longer period of time than Cribbs did and I don't understand why they wouldn't be called the same.

I've also said previously that I think the refs got the call correct earlier according to the rules if 3 steps isn't a football move. I just don't understand why the rules for returning punts and catching passes are different as far as establishing possession.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 6:10 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:08 pm to
You can't say you understand and then ask this question. It shows you don't understand.
Posted by fleaux
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:09 pm to
If a punt returner has the ball for even a split second , then drops it when he hits the ground after being hit he is down by contact. Not true for a receiver
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:09 pm to
A punt reception and a pass reception are two different things? I've never heard that you have to "complete the play" with a punt reception.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:10 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 4:59 pm
Posted by angryslugs
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

I just don't understand why the rules for returning punts and catching passes are different as far as establishing possession.


Clearly. The rules for completing a catch and fumbling are not the same. If a running back gets hit immediately after receiving the handoff, has control of the ball when he hits the ground, and then the ball comes loose, fumble or no fumble?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:16 pm to
it should have been an incomplete punt
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