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Hitters that Dominate a Pitcher....
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:10 pm
...every once in a while, you'll just see a guy who has another guy's number. Things that are irrational-- Shawn Green hitting .459 against Greg Maddux type things. Dexter Fowler flirting with .400 against Clayton Kershaw at one point, the only guy with over 40 at bats who was hitting over .315 against him.
These kinds of irreconcilable matchups are some of the best things in the world of sports. Do you have any favorites?
A recent favorite of mine: Max Kepler of the Twins homered in 5 consecutive at bats (across multiple games) against Trevor Bauer of the Indians, the first such streak since 1961, and tied for longest in MLB history.
These kinds of irreconcilable matchups are some of the best things in the world of sports. Do you have any favorites?
A recent favorite of mine: Max Kepler of the Twins homered in 5 consecutive at bats (across multiple games) against Trevor Bauer of the Indians, the first such streak since 1961, and tied for longest in MLB history.
This post was edited on 7/14/19 at 1:11 pm
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:24 pm to BoardReader
Someone read a ESPN headline today.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:35 pm to BoardReader
Paul Goldschmidt owned Tim Lincecum
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:38 pm to BoardReader
Edgar Martinez had a .579/.652/1.053 line against Mariano Rivera for his career.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:38 pm to BoardReader
Bryce Harper has owned Julio Teheran for years
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:43 pm to BoardReader
Billy Butler has a .402/.464/.540 batting line in 87 AB vs Justin Verlander
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:46 pm to BoardReader
Shawn Green was an All-Star who was also younger than Maddux and came into his own when Maddux was on the downside of his career. Surprising number? Sure. But Green wasn’t a scrub or anything
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:50 pm to Cleanmatt
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Paul Goldschmidt owned Tim Lincecum
Lincecum couldn't have caught up this year
and Tony Gwynn vs. Greg Maddux may be the GOAT of these things, y'all can look it up.
Famous Maddux quote:
“You just can’t do it,” Maddux said. “Sometimes hitters can pick up differences in spin. They can identify pitches if there are different release points or if a curveball starts with an upward hump as it leaves the pitcher’s hand. But if a pitcher can change speeds, every hitter is helpless, limited by human vision.
“Except for that (expletive) Tony Gwynn.”
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:53 pm to gthog61
Gwynn hit over .400 against Maddux in over 100 PA
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:04 pm to tduecen
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Someone read a ESPN headline today.
Nah. Just a Twins fan who is happy to see his team dragging their balls over the Indians this week, to put the stupid 'Cleveland is coming back to win the Central' BS on hold.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:12 pm to tduecen
Chipper Jones had a .349/.404/.791 in 50 PA's against Randy Johnson. Also had 6 homers.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 4:36 pm to BoardReader
Adam Rosales was a journeyman player but owned Chris Sale
Posted on 7/14/19 at 5:00 pm to Quidam65
Supposedly, Bob Ueker hit Koufax pretty well
Ty Cobb vs. HoF pitchers:
Chief Bender .366
Jack Chesbro .426
Stan Coveleski .362
Red Faber .335
Lefty Grove .333
Waite Hoyt .265
Walter Johnson .366
Addie Joss .266
Ted Lyons .320
Herb Pennock .366
Eddie Plank .343
Red Ruffing .231
Babe Ruth .328
Rube Waddell .355
Ed Walsh .341
Cy Young .340
Ty Cobb vs. HoF pitchers:
Chief Bender .366
Jack Chesbro .426
Stan Coveleski .362
Red Faber .335
Lefty Grove .333
Waite Hoyt .265
Walter Johnson .366
Addie Joss .266
Ted Lyons .320
Herb Pennock .366
Eddie Plank .343
Red Ruffing .231
Babe Ruth .328
Rube Waddell .355
Ed Walsh .341
Cy Young .340
Posted on 7/14/19 at 5:04 pm to BoardReader
Mike Redmond (catcher with the Marlins) slashed .438/.471/.604 in 51 plate appearances against Tom Glavine
Posted on 7/14/19 at 5:45 pm to BoardReader
Here’s a good LINK about pitchers vs Barry Bonds. If I’m Chris Peters, bringing up that fact every chance I get.
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Fewest hits: LHP Chris Peters held Bonds hitless through 14 PA, allowing just two walks over five seasons. Eight other pitchers have notched at least 10 PA without giving up a hit: Giovanni Carrara (13), Derek Lowe (13), Joe Boever (12), Cris Carpenter (12), Mark Wohlers (12), Troy Brohawn (11), Bob Patterson (11), and Horacio Ramirez (10). Brohawn came closest to shutting Bonds down completely, issuing a single walk in his 11 PA against the slugger.
Fewest home runs: RHP Rick Sutcliffe managed 51 PA without surrendering a home run. Bonds nabbed just four extra-base hits in that time, a double for each season from 1986-1989.
Fewest walks: Southpaw Kent Mercker avoided walking Bonds for 41 PA, intentionally or otherwise. It’s a solid 18 more appearances than runner-up Norm Charlton, who finished 23 PA without a walk.
Fewest intentional walks: Although Mercker refused to walk Bonds, lefty Sid Fernandez holds the most appearances without an intentional walk at 80 PA. He also recorded 14 strikeouts, the second-most of Bonds’ 1,224 opponents.
Most strikeouts: This one goes to right-handed starters Greg Maddux and John Smoltz, who each logged 16 strikeouts against Barry. They had the most opportunities, too, with 157 and 108 PA, respectively (excepting Tom Glavine, who struck Bonds out 11 times in 120 PA).
Of course, despite sample-sized successes, this question still begs an answer: Which pitcher put up the best numbers against Bonds?
Only six pitchers saw him at least 80 times: Greg Maddux (157), Tom Glavine (120), John Smoltz (108), Curt Schilling (100), Dennis Martinez (100), and Sid Fernandez (80). Each left their mark on the future Hall of Famer. Maddux faced Bonds over 21 of his 22-year career. Smoltz walked Bonds 28 times. Fernandez denied Bonds an extra-base hit for 6 years and 44 consecutive PA.
Overall, however, Dennis Martinez blows away the competition. Against ‘El Presidente,’ Barry batted .228/.290/.337, earning a .627 OPS, 7 extra bases, 8 walks, 2 intentional walks, and a solo home run. Martinez’s most dominant efforts were showcased in 1987, when Bonds went 14 PA without reaching base.
The most significant category Dennis did not lead this group in was strikeouts, placing last with 8 Ks to 34 groundouts and 26 flyouts—55 of which were handled by his Baltimore, Montreal, and Atlanta compadres.
The Martinez-Bonds match-ups spanned the first decade of Bonds’ career, taking a brief break from 1994-1997 while Dennis tested the waters in the American League. When he returned for a final plate appearance in ’98, it was to hand Bonds one last intentional walk.
This post was edited on 7/14/19 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 7/14/19 at 5:48 pm to BoardReader
Maddux was easy to dominate. Rebel was like .750 off him.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 5:52 pm to ZZTIGERS
In 61 PA, Mike Trouts hits .189/.279/.302 against Hisashi Iwakuma and Justin Verlander (this can be expected) has held him to a .125/.300/.275 line. Every other pitcher has faced for more than 50 PA he hits over .300/.400/.700 against 
Posted on 7/14/19 at 10:05 pm to tduecen
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Gwynn hit over .400 against Maddux in over 100 PA
Tony Gwynn has some wild stats
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On 45 separate occasions, Gwynn recorded four hits in a game -- 11 more times than he recorded a multi-strikeout game.
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Rather famously, Gwynn only struck out three times in a game once -- against Bob Welch and the Los Angeles Dodgers in 1986. But Gwynn played a pivotal role in that game, nonetheless, singling in the eighth, and scoring the tying run in the 10th after reaching on an error. In fact, he added 37.9 percent to the Padres' win probability that day.
And then, Gwynn’s toughest pitcher her faced was just in the news:
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Among the 38 pitchers that he faced at least 50 times, his lowest average was a .243 mark against Dwight Gooden.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 10:33 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Among the 38 pitchers that he faced at least 50 times, his lowest average was a .243 mark against Dwight Gooden.
Doc must have gotten the good coke instead of the low-level street stuff when the Padres came to town.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:34 am to BoardReader
Gleyber Torres owns the Orioles pitching staff as a whole.
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