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re: Here's the definition of a 'game manager'
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:48 pm to LosLobos111
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:48 pm to LosLobos111
quote:Yep, terrible timing for the injury, sucks.
Hopefully ingram will help. He looked really good before that injury.
Just looked it up, Seattle leads the NFL with 5.3 yards per carry, Saints are 2nd with 5.2.
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:49 pm to DelU249
quote:It appears that some people have never seen Russell Wilson play.
RW has one of the better deep balls in the league, elite arm strength, great accurac
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:50 pm to boom roasted
who? me?
everything I just said is absolutely true. I think most people don't understand the type of zip he puts on the ball. He has top 3 arm strength and great accuracy
everything I just said is absolutely true. I think most people don't understand the type of zip he puts on the ball. He has top 3 arm strength and great accuracy
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:50 pm to lsupride87
quote:
That is a shite ton to assume
Why is that? The Saints wouldnt just throw it less just to. If they would be throwing it less a game, that means they would be running it better.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:51 pm to DelU249
quote:No. We're on the same page. Some people see Wilson play a couple times, look at some stats and now they're experts.
who? me?
quote:I'm a big Wilson fan, but no.
top 3 arm strength
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:53 pm to dnm3305
quote:
Why is that? The Saints wouldnt just throw it less just to. If they would be throwing it less a game, that means they would be running it better.
My head hurts.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:54 pm to TDawg1313
quote:That's what happens when you argue with dnm3305.
My head hurts.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:54 pm to boom roasted
Dallas showed up and punched Seattle in the mouth. I don't think any team could've beaten the Cowboys yesterday.
It doesn't make Wilson any less of a QB. Peyton would've gotten murdered against that rush.
It doesn't make Wilson any less of a QB. Peyton would've gotten murdered against that rush.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:55 pm to boom roasted
like I said, his arm strength is underrated. He puts serious heat on the ball. Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:56 pm to DelU249
quote:No doubt. But he's not top 3. Let's be reasonable.
like I said, his arm strength is underrated. He puts serious heat on the ball.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:59 pm to boom roasted
usually the bigger arms tend to be the younger qbs
in terms of fitting a ball into a tight window type arm strength (which is the only type but people confuse this with the distance a qb can throw it)
I have
vick (it's uncanny, too bad he sucks)
luck
Wilson
flacco
who can throw a ball faster than these guys?
in terms of fitting a ball into a tight window type arm strength (which is the only type but people confuse this with the distance a qb can throw it)
I have
vick (it's uncanny, too bad he sucks)
luck
Wilson
flacco
who can throw a ball faster than these guys?
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:00 pm to craigbiggio
quote:
If Brees' Att/Gm went donw by 10, what do you think would happen to his YPA? They would frickin go up.
For Craigbiggio, boom roasted, and lsupride...
quote:
ummmmmm, you realize his yards would also go down right? So the average would prolly stay the same
quote:
lol what?
quote:
Based on what
quote:
That is a shite ton to assume
quote:
Keep it going. This is funny.
Super Bowl Saints 2009 -
Brees Stats - 34.3 Att/G, 8.54 YPA
Saints Overall Rushing - 468 Att, 2016 Yds, 4.5 YPA
Saints 2010 -
Brees Stats - 41.1 Att/G, 7.02 YPA
Saints Overall Rushing - 380 Att, 1519 Yds, 4.0 YPA
Brees threw*** it less in '09 because he didnt HAVE to throw it as much. The Saints were ranked no.6 in rushing that year as a team. He became more efficient and his fricking YPA went up as he threw the damn ball less. The Saints are less efficient in '10, he throws the ball more and his YPA went down.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:00 pm to DelU249
In addition to your list, Cam, Kaep and Rodgers.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:01 pm to dnm3305
quote:Nailed it.
Brees through it less
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:01 pm to DelU249
quote:
vick (it's uncanny, too bad he sucks) luck Wilson flacco
quote:
who can throw a ball faster than these guys?
Rodgers no doubt. Maybe not faster, but he's in that group.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:03 pm to dnm3305
quote:
Ummmmmmmmm, his number of attempts wouldnt be so diluted with incompletions. Many times they use the short passing game as the running game. He would play in a more efficient offense like the Seahawks do and would throw much higher percentage throws like the Seahawks do many times off of play action.
Your argument doesn't make a lot of sense. Yards per attempt is a reflection of accuracy and the verticality(couldn't think of a better word) of the passing offense. There is usually a trade-off between the two, which makes it a good metric (besides being easy to calculate) to evaluate a QB and passing offense.
So while the short passing game results in fewer yards per completion, it would lend itself to a higher completion percentage, which would be corrected in the YPA. On the other hand, if they stopped those short passes, then the YPC will go up but the completion percentage will go down, keeping the YPA relatively consistent.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:03 pm to boom roasted
All of them have excellent arm strength, but I've never thought they had favre/jawalrus type arms
The guys I mentioned I think do have that...it's one of the more misunderstood skill (most people think distance) and really one of the more overrated skills. Look at Manning, Brady and Brees...None of them ever had a big arm in terms of velocity.
favre and vick are so freaky because that ability never left favre and so far vick can still rocket that motherfricker out
The guys I mentioned I think do have that...it's one of the more misunderstood skill (most people think distance) and really one of the more overrated skills. Look at Manning, Brady and Brees...None of them ever had a big arm in terms of velocity.
favre and vick are so freaky because that ability never left favre and so far vick can still rocket that motherfricker out
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:04 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:Exactly
Your argument doesn't make a lot of sense. Yards per attempt is a reflection of accuracy and the verticality(couldn't think of a better word) of the passing offense. There is usually a trade-off between the two, which makes it a good metric (besides being easy to calculate) to evaluate a QB and passing offense.
So while the short passing game results in fewer yards per completion, it would lend itself to a higher completion percentage, which would be corrected in the YPA. On the other hand, if they stopped those short passes, then the YPC will go up but the completion percentage will go down, keeping the YPA relatively consistent.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:05 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
So while the short passing game results in fewer yards per completion, it would lend itself to a higher completion percentage, which would be corrected in the YPA. On the other hand, if they stopped those short passes, then the YPC will go up but the completion percentage will go down, keeping the YPA relatively consistent.
You would think so, but that's not always the case, such as the above 09 Saints vs 10 Saints
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:06 pm to DelU249
Not really sure what your criteria is.
arm strength = velocity
Rodgers
Kaep
Cam
Luck
Flacco
maybe even Cutty
All ahead of Wilson.
arm strength = velocity
Rodgers
Kaep
Cam
Luck
Flacco
maybe even Cutty
All ahead of Wilson.
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