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re: Here's the definition of a 'game manager'
Posted on 10/13/14 at 7:49 pm to saintforlife1
Posted on 10/13/14 at 7:49 pm to saintforlife1
89.1 rating versus 101.2
60% vs 64%
23 TDs vs 26
And Charles pads passing stats in a way lynch doesn't
You can keep your delusions. How many times was wilson sacked last year?
60% vs 64%
23 TDs vs 26
And Charles pads passing stats in a way lynch doesn't
You can keep your delusions. How many times was wilson sacked last year?
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:03 pm to DelU249
How are you using that as a "stat padder", he's part of their offense because the lack of great receivers. He's also one of the best receiving backs in the league and they run A LOT of screens with him.
It isn't like that was something new, Charles has always been that way. Look at his best season in the league, 468 receiving yards as well.
If you want to honestly bitch and complain that Wilson has no receiving weapons, neither does Alex Smith. Bowe is far from what he used to be and Jamaal Charles was their leading receiver last year.
Wilson isn't a manager, but he's in the top part of the tier2 QBs. Roethlisberger started his career with a 8.9ypa, but we all know he was a manager with elite potential. Then came the downfall of the run game, then the defense, and now he's clearly shown he's just a tier 2QB.
Wilson was sacked 44 times
Smith was sacked 39 times
Time will tell, until then, he's a tier 2 QB.
It isn't like that was something new, Charles has always been that way. Look at his best season in the league, 468 receiving yards as well.
If you want to honestly bitch and complain that Wilson has no receiving weapons, neither does Alex Smith. Bowe is far from what he used to be and Jamaal Charles was their leading receiver last year.
Wilson isn't a manager, but he's in the top part of the tier2 QBs. Roethlisberger started his career with a 8.9ypa, but we all know he was a manager with elite potential. Then came the downfall of the run game, then the defense, and now he's clearly shown he's just a tier 2QB.
Wilson was sacked 44 times
Smith was sacked 39 times
Time will tell, until then, he's a tier 2 QB.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:08 pm to saintforlife1
quote:
Could Russell Wilson be elite some day and carry the entire team on his back? - Maybe.
quote:When did this become a discussion of whether or not he's "elite"?
Is he elite today? - No. He is 2nd tier along with Rivers, Romo and that bunch. No amount of stats (high QB rating or Y/A) is going to disprove that. The truth is Wilson just doesn't throw enough times per game to make a claim for being 'elite'.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:12 pm to boom roasted
You're either elite or you're a game manager. There's no gray area.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:12 pm to Choupique19
A true game manager 
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:13 pm to craigbiggio
quote:
You're either elite or you're a game manager. There's no gray area.
Perhaps Wilson is an elite game manager?
BOOM!
MIND
BLOWN
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:22 pm to craigbiggio
Pretty sure OP realized how dumb of a statement it is and shifted the goalposts slightly.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:37 pm to lsupride87
He gets sacked because he doesn't know how to move in the pocket.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:42 pm to craigbiggio
quote:
You're either elite or you're a game manager. There's no gray area.
LINK
I don't really follow you on QB discussions.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:45 pm to BRL79
quote:
He gets sacked because he doesn't know how to move in the pocket.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:46 pm to BRL79
quote:I honestly cant believe I just read this. I am truly stunned
He gets sacked because he doesn't know how to move in the pocket.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:50 pm to lsupride87
He moves out of the pocket, he doesn't climb the pocket like say Drew does. He mostly moves out of the pocket all together. He is effective doing this but it causes lots of sacks because you leave your protection. Calm down ladies
ETA: By the way, we're seeing what happens when the team really is on his shoulders for wins. He just can't pull it off. THAT is the definition of a game manager. Somebody that can steer the ship as long as there are no emergencies.
ETA: By the way, we're seeing what happens when the team really is on his shoulders for wins. He just can't pull it off. THAT is the definition of a game manager. Somebody that can steer the ship as long as there are no emergencies.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:53 pm to BRL79
quote:Once again,
He is effective doing this but it causes lots of sacks because you leave your protection.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:54 pm to BRL79
quote:he has actually done it multiple times.
By the way, we're seeing what happens when the team really is on his shoulders for wins. He just can't pull it off.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:54 pm to lsupride87
Its a school night, shouldn't you be in bed?
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:55 pm to lsupride87
Game manager. Deal with it.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:56 pm to BRL79
quote:You have blaimed Wilson for sacks, not realizing the Seahawks had the second worst rated Oline in the entire NFL last year. Wilson is widely considered one of the best qbs at avoiding the pressure and sacks. You honestly have no right to be considered in this thread anymore
Its a school night, shouldn't you be in bed?
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:59 pm to lsupride87
Hey, I didn't say the oline is fantastic by any stretch, but it isn't exactly news that leaving the pocket can cause extra sacks. Now, is he leaving the pocket because of the bad line? Possibly. But if the line is so terrible Lynch must really be a bad dude because he has no problem running behind them.
ETA: By the way lots of smart quarterbacks don't get sacked alot even with a bad oline due to ability to read the defense more quickly
ETA: By the way lots of smart quarterbacks don't get sacked alot even with a bad oline due to ability to read the defense more quickly
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:00 pm to lsupride87
Wilson has admitted that he needs to be better in the pocket.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:02 pm to BRL79
quote:Lynch is a dad dude. And there o line is still awful, that is a fact. I dont care what theories people have about sacks and leaving the pocket, most Qbs in the league would have more sacks then Wilson if they played on the Hawks
Hey, I didn't say the oline is fantastic by any stretch, but it isn't exactly news that leaving the pocket can cause extra sacks. Now, is he leaving the pocket because of the bad line? Possibly. But if the line is so terrible Lynch must really be a bad dude because he has no problem running behind them.
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