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Here is a comparison of Tua's full season stats vs Kyler's with no 4th Q/OT included

Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:46 pm
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:46 pm
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Tua (full season) Pass Yards: 3,189 Rush Yards: 211 Total Yards: 3,400 Total TDs: 41

Murray (no 4Q or OT) Pass Yards: 3,329 Rush Yards: 605 Total Yards: 3,934 Total TDs: 39


Thought this was interesting with how many posters rely on "tUa dOeSn'T plaY the 4tH QuArter" like it's some trump card
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:47 pm to
It’s tuas trophy. Get over it
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:48 pm to
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It’s tuas trophy. Get over it


I'm sorry did they hand it over already?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:50 pm to
Oh so a 500 yard difference and 2 more TDs? Against better defenses?

You thought this made Murray look better didn’t you?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:52 pm to
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Oh so a 500 yard difference and 2 more TDs? Against better defenses?

You thought this made Murray look better didn’t you?
Huh?


Its Tua's trophy, though(unless he sucks arse and Georgia wins).
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20686 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:52 pm to
I really enjoy watching Murray play and would not be mad if he won the won Heisman. That being said, your stats in the OP aren’t some kind of trump card for Murray either.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:52 pm to
In the monthof November and the 1st week of December Tua played/will play 4 defenses better than the best defense Kyler faced all year


Put that in your pipe and smoke it
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 7:54 pm
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:55 pm to
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That being said, your stats in the OP aren’t some kind of trump card for Murray either.


Well Kyler's stats are much better than Tua's

Bama fans like to point out that Tua doesn't play in the 4th quarter hence why his stats are inferior to Kyler's

I just pointed out that if Kyler would have never played the 4th quarter or OT this year, he would still have better stats than Tua
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 7:55 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:55 pm to
He’s disagreeing with OP
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:55 pm to
Hows Haskins looking?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:56 pm to
Tua has also faced 5 top 50 defenses while Murray has barely faced 2.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:57 pm to
His last 4 games were shootouts vs shitty defenses.

Tua’s last 4 included 2 games vs some of the best defenses in the country in LSU and MSU. The fact that the numbers are within 500 total yards and Tua has more TDs doesn’t make kyler look better than Tua.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:57 pm to
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You thought this made Murray look better didn’t you?


It does when you take into account that Kyler is the MVP of any CFB team

We know Hurts would still lead Bama to an undefeated season

Without Kyler, OU would be 7-4 at best with that defense. The fact a team with that flag football defense is in the CFP discussion should automatically win it for Kyler
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20686 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:58 pm to
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Well Kyler's stats are much better than Tua's


Is that what you pointed out? I don’t think it is.

Also, what’s Murray’s YPA vs Tua’s? TD to INT ratio?

I’m real mad at you for making me be so critical of Murray.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:59 pm to
So you’re just making assumptions.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:59 pm to
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I just pointed out that if Kyler would have never played the 4th quarter or OT this year, he would still have better stats than Tua


By 500 total yards.

And 3 fewer TDs.

Against some of the worst defenses in the P5.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20769 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:59 pm to
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Without Kyler, OU would be 7-4 at best with that defense. The fact a team with that flag football defense is in the CFP discussion should automatically win it for Kyler


Sounds like you should be more worried about Lincoln Rile’s coaching ability than the Heisman Trophy.
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
25492 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:01 pm to
Nice try.

Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:02 pm to
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while Murray has barely faced 2.


False. According to the S&P+, it is 3 teams
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:04 pm to
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I'm sorry did they hand it over already


I’ll give you 2-1 odds any amount you want that Tua ends up higher in the poll than Kyler. What’s the bet?
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