re: Here is a comparison of Tua's full season stats vs Kyler's with no 4th Q/OT included

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Some games TUA barely or didn't even play in the 3rd quarter as well

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Good thing they have Jalen Hurts. Another QB capable of leading the Tide to a 12-0 record. Face it, he's just not that valuable to you guys

Would suck if he actually ended up falling short of the Heisman because of it.

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Would suck if he actually ended up falling short of the Heisman because of it.

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There's is absolutely no way he loses.

Kyler is just the most productive of a series of talented system QBs at Oklahoma because he's hampered by the worst defense of a series of shitty defenses they've had over the years

Jalen Hurts could grad transfer to OU next year and put up better stats than Tua will at Alabama in a playoff run.

Doesn't make Jalen better when clearly he s not on the same level

It's just not even close. Tua is facing NFL level pass rushers, looking off defenders making throws directly to the outside shoulder on blanketed receivers, hitting streakers in stride every single time, or putting the perfect amount of touch to drop it in the middle. Kyler is facing zero pass rush bouncing around waiting for someone to be wide open, which happens often and if it doesn't he just takes off. And Tua has in effect played about 8 games to Kyler's 12. And the stats are STILL almost the same.

It's. Not. Even. Close.

Congrats to Tua

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Well Kyler's stats are much better than Tua's

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You suck at stats bro. The stats you posted aren't very different, and you left off the important indicators. We need attempts, completions and interceptions to draw any real conclusions . YPA, TD ratio and INT ratio are significantly more meaningful than the totals you posted.

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His last 4 games were shootouts vs shitty defenses.

Tua’s last 4 included 2 games vs some of the best defenses in the country in LSU and MSU. The fact that the numbers are within 500 total yards and Tua has more TDs doesn’t make kyler look better than Tua.

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How is Tuas defense compared to kyler's?

Will you teach me how to make graphs in photoshop

The Big 12 has 4 teams with winning records. If Tua puts up numbers and beats Georgia this vote won't be close. If Oklahoma loses to Texas again it's over.

I love it when you talk dirty to me

Tua has missed approximately 19 quarters this year due to being benched in blowouts. That’s 4 and 3/4 games.

Tua’s played 7 1/4 games and put up his numbers.

Murray has missed just four quarters all year. He’s played 11 full games.

Imagine Tua getting 3 and 3/4 more games to pad his stats.

I'm with you on this. With solid defense, you'd expect some stops. Should have been more field goals if those defenses were as good as the SEC homers say they are.