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re: Here is a comparison of Tua's full season stats vs Kyler's with no 4th Q/OT included
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:05 pm to TH03
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:05 pm to TH03
Look I just pointed out he's playing better statistically than any QB in the nation
I'm sorry someone has to challenge you on that but, he's the more valuable player
I'm sorry someone has to challenge you on that but, he's the more valuable player
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:07 pm to TH03
quote:
His last 4 games were shootouts vs shitty defenses.
Tua's first half of the season was against shitty defenses. According to S&P+
Louisville - 110
Arkansas state - 64th
Tennessee- 97th
ULL- 111th
Ole Miss - 109th
Arkansas -78th
Why do you give him a pass?
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:09 pm to OKtiger
Tua also sat the entire half in at least 3-4 games..not just the 4th quarter
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:10 pm to OKtiger
quote:
Tua's first half of the season was against shitty defenses
Why do you give him a pass?
I mean besides the non conference slate of warmup cupcakes vs divisional games and all?
Kylers entire season was vs shitty defenses outside of a couple. The best scoring defense they faced was army.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:12 pm to TH03
quote:
I mean besides the non conference slate of warmup cupcakes vs divisional games and all?
Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Arkansas I'm sure were tough
Along with the non conference schedule of Arkansas state, ULL, tCitadel, and Louisville
Stop acting like the defenses he played this year were worth a shite
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:14 pm to OKtiger
Tua has missed WAY more than just the 4th quarter, btw.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:14 pm to OKtiger
quote:
Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Arkansas I'm sure were tough
Do you really want to play that game?
Edit: I see you do. Give me a moment.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:16 pm to OKtiger
Tua:
Passing Yards: 3189
Total Touchdowns: 41
Murray:
Passing Yards: 3674
Total Touchdowns: 48
Haskins:
Passing Yards: 4081
Total Touchdowns: 45
Passing Yards: 3189
Total Touchdowns: 41
Murray:
Passing Yards: 3674
Total Touchdowns: 48
Haskins:
Passing Yards: 4081
Total Touchdowns: 45
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:17 pm to TH03
quote:
Do you really want to play that game?
According to S&P+
Louisville - 110
Arkansas state - 64th
Tennessee- 97th
ULL- 111th
Ole Miss - 109th
Arkansas -78th
Texas A&M just gave up 72 points to LSU
Tua has played harder defenses compared to Kyler but if this is your trump card it's pathetic
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:18 pm to OKtiger
Ok so Tua has faced #4, 16, 18, 38, 40 and UGA will be 14. While Murray has faced #22, 30, and 50.
Tua has to have a good game against UGA (and Bama would have to win) but if he does I highly doubt Murray will win.
Tua has to have a good game against UGA (and Bama would have to win) but if he does I highly doubt Murray will win.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:19 pm to OKtiger
Both players are deserving
Murray and Oklahoma would torch SEC defenses the same way Tua has
Tua probably wins becaue his team has been #1 all year
Murray and Oklahoma would torch SEC defenses the same way Tua has
Tua probably wins becaue his team has been #1 all year
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:20 pm to 1BamaRTR
quote:
Ok so Tua has faced #4
and put up this statline
14-21 167 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT with a 37 Raw QBR
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:20 pm to OKtiger
quote:Well, he also played with a sprained knee for almost half of the season, and I think he still split time with Hurts in the first 2 games of the season.
Thought this was interesting with how many posters rely on "tUa dOeSn'T plaY the 4tH QuArter" like it's some trump card
Just some more info
Total defense rankings of teams Alabama and Oklahoma have played:
Alabama: 3, 31, 37, 45, 50, 51, 54, 78, 104, 121, 122 (did not include the Citadel, but their 427 ypg would put them at #91 in FBS). Will play #12 UGA this weekend.
Oklahoma: 11 (largely because teams don't have the ball that much), 27, 39, 63, 73, 75, 79, 81, 88, 98, 105, 110. Will play #63 Texas this weekend.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:21 pm to 1BamaRTR
quote:
but if he does I highly doubt Murray will win.
I would have to agree he wins today. I just don't agree with the reasoning. The more deserving player is Kyler
If I had to bet on who won, it would be Tua though
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:22 pm to OKtiger
And Murray hasn’t faced anything remotely close to that caliber of defense.
Btw I don’t really have a problem with Murray winning.
Btw I don’t really have a problem with Murray winning.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Holy crap. Haskins has 185 more attempts than Tua and 148 than Murray. Seems crazy.
He better have more yards
He better have more yards
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:22 pm to OKtiger
I’m sure you championed for Colt Brennan, BJ Symons, Kliff Kingsbury, and Graham Harrell. Stats are clearly important regardless of the teams you rack them up against
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:24 pm to pvilleguru
quote:Tua threw 1 pass in the 2nd half against UL. Not sure about Arkansas State.
and I think he still split time with Hurts in the first 2 games of the season.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:24 pm to OKtiger
So basically identical stats.
Only Tua has far fewer INT's and has played much better defenses?
K.
Only Tua has far fewer INT's and has played much better defenses?
K.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:25 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:
Stats are clearly important regardless of the teams you rack them up against
Like I said congrats to Tua..
S&P+ defensive ratings:
Louisville - 110
Arkansas state - 64th
Tennessee- 97th
ULL- 111th
Ole Miss - 109th
Arkansas -78th
AND Texas A&M just gave up 72 points to LSU
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