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re: Heisman trophy winners that shouldn't have won...

Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Enigma
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:54 pm to
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Just trying to be unbiased

Fair enough, but you're making up for it by being stupid.


I'm stupid bc my opinion differs from yours?
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:55 pm to
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Ron Dayne over Joe Hamilton


lets not get crazy here
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:55 pm to
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Yes I'm serious.. TR is Bama's offense. He flat out runs over people and makes plays every week.


And when Lacy does the same thing next year?

And Fowler after that?


RGIII made Baylor relevant.
Posted by bddwolfpack
NYC
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:55 pm to
I've watched him play all year and haven't been impressed enough to put him over any of those three.

Mostly, I'm pissed at the NFL hype he is receiving.

"He's so accurate" - because he's in the spread offense throwing screens all day + his deep passes all year have been completed because no defender is anywhere near the receiver the majority of the time.
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:56 pm to
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I'm stupid bc my opinion differs from yours?


RollTideRockStar? Is that you?
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:56 pm to
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"He's so accurate" - because he's in the spread offense throwing screens all day + his deep passes all year have been completed because no defender is anywhere near the receiver the majority of the time.


yeah because Baylor brings in stud WRs


he is one of the better deep ball passers I've seen lately
Posted by CMBears1259
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:57 pm to
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I'm stupid bc my opinion differs from yours?

Of course not, because your eyes don't work, you can't read stats and you said TR is Bama's offense. Have you watched a Baylor game?
Posted by bddwolfpack
NYC
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:58 pm to
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yeah because Baylor brings in stud WRs


Yeah because the Big 12 brings in stud DB's

He throws a nice deep ball to wide open receivers, not too difficult
Posted by Enigma
Member since Jan 2008
6713 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:58 pm to
RG3 won the heisman because he impressively beat OU and Teaxs late in the season.
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Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:59 pm to
Jason White over Fitz and Ingram over Suh
Posted by bddwolfpack
NYC
Member since Sep 2010
9407 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:00 pm to
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RG3 won the heisman because he impressively beat OU and Teaxs late in the season.


That + the "wow factor"

Heisman is becoming a joke
Posted by Enigma
Member since Jan 2008
6713 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:00 pm to
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He throws a nice deep ball to wide open receivers, not too difficult


+100

I've watched his games. Majority of his deep balls are to wide open receivers.
Posted by CMBears1259
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
5044 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:02 pm to
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RG3 won the heisman because he impressively beat OU and Teaxs late in the season.
Fact

Maybe so, but it should have never come down to needing that. Dude's put up ridiculous numbers and played lights out all year. That alone should have put him in contention (maybe bottom teir w/o those wins) instead of having to rely on beating OU and Texas.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:02 pm to
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2001 Crouch over Grossman

Not sure if serious.

Crouch was an awesome college player. The Heisman isn't the "Best Pro Prospect." RGIII just set a record for passer rating, while throwing for nerly 4000 yards, a ridiculous TD/INT ratio, and rushing for 650 yards. RGIII is a monster college player.
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:05 pm to
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+100

I've watched his games. Majority of his deep balls are to wide open receivers.



So his game winning touchdown pass against Oklahoma wasn't impressive? He was scrambling to his left, threw it across his body, about 45 yards I might add, to a covered WR, in the right corner of the endzone. TRs heisman moment was against Ole Miss.
Posted by Enigma
Member since Jan 2008
6713 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:05 pm to
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RG3 won the heisman because he impressively beat OU and Teaxs late in the season.
Fact

Maybe so, but it should have never come down to needing that. Dude's put up ridiculous numbers and played lights out all year. That alone should have put him in contention (maybe bottom teir w/o those wins) instead of having to rely on beating OU and Texas.


I'm not saying he shouldn't have been a finalist, just saying he shouldn't have won.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44932 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:07 pm to
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2001 Crouch over Grossman


Crouch was their team that year
Posted by CMBears1259
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
5044 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:07 pm to
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I'm not saying he shouldn't have been a finalist, just saying he shouldn't have won.

Oh the right guy definitely won, your just butthurt about it and looking for any reason to comfort yourself. But, whatever.
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:09 pm to
RG3 game winner against Oklahoma ...


Here is to all of those that said his deep balls were to "wide open" recievers ...
Posted by Enigma
Member since Jan 2008
6713 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:10 pm to
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Oh the right guy definitely won, your just butthurt about it and looking for any reason to comfort yourself. But, whatever.


It doesn't effect me at all. The only person I was rooting for was HB7.. I knew he was a long shot. but w/e.

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