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re: Has any conference ever had a collection of QB's that the PAC 12 has right now
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:10 pm to Left Handed Catcher
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:10 pm to Left Handed Catcher
Mock drafts are notoriously wrong this time of year
Jevan Snead
Hackenberg
Matt Barkley
Cardale Jones
All were sure first first round picks before their last year
Browning is a good college player that could carve out a career in the next level but he does have massive arm deficiencies that will likely keep him out the top rounds
Jevan Snead
Hackenberg
Matt Barkley
Cardale Jones
All were sure first first round picks before their last year
Browning is a good college player that could carve out a career in the next level but he does have massive arm deficiencies that will likely keep him out the top rounds
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:12 pm to Left Handed Catcher
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The guy can't even complete 60% of his passes in college
I am sure Louisville is not slinging the ball down the field so those are mainly easy passes to complete
Louisville throws deep a lot. Every Petrino offense that I can remember has never been shy about chucking it deep.
ETA: Jackson was 12th in the country in YPA last year.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:19 pm to wildtigercat93
Problem was for 3 of the QB's they had new offensive coordinators their final season
Hackenberg, Snead and Jones
With Barkley there was a power struggle with Kiffin and USC's offensive coordinator. Kiffin started calling plays I believe during the Stanford game
The Stanford game was what killed Kiffin at USC and Matt Barkley's draft status
Hackenberg, Snead and Jones
With Barkley there was a power struggle with Kiffin and USC's offensive coordinator. Kiffin started calling plays I believe during the Stanford game
The Stanford game was what killed Kiffin at USC and Matt Barkley's draft status
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:25 pm to Left Handed Catcher
2010 Big 12 was decent with 4 1st round picks, but none of them really panned out (of course)
Robert Griffin III
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
Landry Jones
Blaine Gabbert
Robert Griffin III
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
Landry Jones
Blaine Gabbert
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:27 pm to Left Handed Catcher
None of those QBs panned out in the league so clearly there was more issues than the OC 
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:31 pm to Left Handed Catcher
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:37 pm to wildtigercat93
I am not sure you can say that
Everyone has different theories about QB's but from what I have seen there are few and they are far between that can win and have success no matter the coaches or personal.
Most QB's are a product of the system and longer they are allowed to find success in a system the more they understand the playbook and more importantly the more confidence they have
Since I live on the California Central Coast I interact with a lot of Niner fans and they have this belief that if they drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Alex Smith they would have won 4 Super Bowls by now
I think they are delusional as Alex Smith was dealt a shitty hand by the Niners. From having defensive minded coaches until Harbaugh to having different offensive coordinators almost every season until Harbaugh arrived
Everyone has different theories about QB's but from what I have seen there are few and they are far between that can win and have success no matter the coaches or personal.
Most QB's are a product of the system and longer they are allowed to find success in a system the more they understand the playbook and more importantly the more confidence they have
Since I live on the California Central Coast I interact with a lot of Niner fans and they have this belief that if they drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Alex Smith they would have won 4 Super Bowls by now
I think they are delusional as Alex Smith was dealt a shitty hand by the Niners. From having defensive minded coaches until Harbaugh to having different offensive coordinators almost every season until Harbaugh arrived
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:43 pm to Left Handed Catcher
Josh Allen is better than all those guys - yes, even Darnold.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:50 pm to Rand AlThor
I have not seen him play.
I might have to take a trip to San Jose to watch him in November.
From all the reports he is a great QB.
He was just from a small farm town in the Central Valley so he was not heavily recruited
I do not understand how Fresno State missed this kid right under their nose
Maybe it is a change from when Pat Hill stopped coaching but when Hill was there he scooped up everyone from the Valley
I might have to take a trip to San Jose to watch him in November.
From all the reports he is a great QB.
He was just from a small farm town in the Central Valley so he was not heavily recruited
I do not understand how Fresno State missed this kid right under their nose
Maybe it is a change from when Pat Hill stopped coaching but when Hill was there he scooped up everyone from the Valley
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:54 pm to Left Handed Catcher
Sam Darnold is the real deal and has the potential to be a very very good qb in the NFL.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:01 pm to Left Handed Catcher
quote:
Since I live on the California Central Coast I interact with a lot of Niner fans and they have this belief that if they drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Alex Smith they would have won 4 Super Bowls by now I think they are delusional as Alex Smith was dealt a shitty hand by the Niners. From having defensive minded coaches until Harbaugh to having different offensive coordinators almost every season until Harbaugh arrived This post was edited on 6/16 at 1:45 pm
Wait...you think the only difference between Aaron Rodgers and Alex smith is their offensive coordinators???
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:04 pm to wildtigercat93
2007 the SEC had 4 future first round picks on the roster. 3 (Jamarcus, Cam, and Stafford) went #1 overall. Tebow being the 4th.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:10 pm to c on z
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Mettenberger
McCarron
Manziel
Wallace
Murray
And Nick Marshall was better than all of them
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:10 pm to wildtigercat93
I believe Rodgers was underrated because of Jeff Tedford
There was a belief that Jeff Tedford QB's failed in the NFL. Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, David Carr and Kyle Boller
More importantly Rodgers was able to sit and wait under Farve. Rodgers except for his rookie year has had the same head coach. This has allowed Rodgers to grow into the system. Like Brady Rodgers knows the playbook inside and out and knows how to adjust to the defense.
We have seen what Alex Smith can do when he is comfortable. You have to understand the pressure that Smith was under his first 4 or 5 seasons. The entire Niner fanbase hated this guy and was constantly booed by his own fans until Harbaugh came in 2011.
There was a belief that Jeff Tedford QB's failed in the NFL. Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, David Carr and Kyle Boller
More importantly Rodgers was able to sit and wait under Farve. Rodgers except for his rookie year has had the same head coach. This has allowed Rodgers to grow into the system. Like Brady Rodgers knows the playbook inside and out and knows how to adjust to the defense.
We have seen what Alex Smith can do when he is comfortable. You have to understand the pressure that Smith was under his first 4 or 5 seasons. The entire Niner fanbase hated this guy and was constantly booed by his own fans until Harbaugh came in 2011.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:12 pm to Left Handed Catcher
quote:
We have seen what Alex Smith can do when he is comfortable.
Lose in the divisional round?
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:17 pm to wildtigercat93
You are missing the point
Put Rodgers with the Niners and Smith with the Packers as soon as the draft was over
Do you believe that they would a) Turn out the same b) Switch places c) Rodgers would be better and Smith worse d) Both become Pro Bowlers
I say b possibly with a 85% chance
d) 15% chance
Put Rodgers with the Niners and Smith with the Packers as soon as the draft was over
Do you believe that they would a) Turn out the same b) Switch places c) Rodgers would be better and Smith worse d) Both become Pro Bowlers
I say b possibly with a 85% chance
d) 15% chance
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:21 pm to Left Handed Catcher
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d) Both become Pro Bowlers
I'd go with this one. For all of McCarthy's flaws, getting the most out of his QBs isn't one of them.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:24 pm to VADawg
The whole Rosen situation reminds me of Christian Hackenburg.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:28 pm to Left Handed Catcher
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say b possibly with a 85% chance
d) 15% chance
I pick option e.) you are an idiot
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:34 pm to wildtigercat93
An idiot to one may not be an idiot to all
I live by that motto because if every one thought I was smart it usually means I am thinking between the boundaries
At my alma mater we have this saying
"What starts here changes the world"
I live by that motto because if every one thought I was smart it usually means I am thinking between the boundaries
At my alma mater we have this saying
"What starts here changes the world"
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 2:35 pm
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