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re: Hahnville QB "hearing" Thursday

Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:14 am to
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5363 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:14 am to
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So offering a kids dad a job to get him at the school is ok?


That shouldn't matter if they move into the school district. I don't know the guy but maybe he's a really good coach and a good teacher. The coaching/teaching profession is all about connections. When I decided to get out for a few years and resigned I had 10 phone calls from coaches I had coached with or against offering me jobs because they didn't know I was getting out all together. Let's just say I had a high school age athletic son. Since those schools contacted me to come coach at their school, my son isn't eligible? That's a dumb rule. Why wouldn't schools try to get the best coaches/teachers they can? The times I filled out "concurrence" on transferring kids I always filled it out to help them get eligible. I never want to be the reason a kid can't play HS sports.
Posted by trusaint
shreveport
Member since Mar 2007
251 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:17 am to
JC must be for kids, wasnt saying all schools, just most when they cant keep the kids on their campus for whatever reason. And usually the ones screaming foul are the ones ignoring or bending the rules in their favor anyway.
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25606 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:31 am to
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Didn’t vandy say they wanted the kid to be eligible to play for HHS and they were gonna propose some other type of punishment. What happened with that?

It's called "lip service." They issued a statement to try and downplay their part in this whole thing and paint them in a better light. The statement oozed with insincerity.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27257 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:44 am to
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Not the point, they said they had to move out of Houma because it was toxic there, yet they still send their kid to school there when St Charles has some of the best schools in the state. Then they are renting an apartment. It don't take a genius to see what's up. Andrew is at Hahnville for athletic purposes and as soon as he's done there they gone pecan.

If you want to be naive then go for it, but everything about this stinks. I feel bad for the kid, he seems like a great kid, but his family has bungled this from the jump. His dad running his mouth in every newspaper that will listen, having the little social media guy that is so far up Andrew's butt say he moved to Hahnville to get more exposure, the jersey thing, the head coach informing the dad of a job opening, the "legit" move while sending his little brother two parishes away to go to school.


I wouldn't say I am naive to it. I guess my complete and utter disdain for the LHSAA does bias me. I also see actions on the VCHS side that are disgusting. I guess there is a chance people on both sides of this have taken inappropriate actions.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:51 am to
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It's pretty obvious they think it wasn't a legit move


In this case, who cares? His father was terminated by the school! Why would any person alive PAY to send their kid to a private institution that just fired his parent?

The rule was there to stop recruiting. This kid was transferring because of his fathers situation. Who fricking cares what their address is?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33899 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:02 am to
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In this case, who cares? His father was terminated by the school! Why would any person alive PAY to send their kid to a private institution that just fired his parent?

The rule was there to stop recruiting. This kid was transferring because of his fathers situation. Who fricking cares what their address is?
so because a dad gets fired - all rules go out the window>?
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5363 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:05 am to
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so because a dad gets fired - all rules go out the window>?


What rule? Dad was fired. Son isn't gonna stay at school Dad was fired from. Family moved into correct district. Dad and son go to same school. That's how it should go.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40281 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:35 am to
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Didn’t vandy say they wanted the kid to be eligible to play for HHS and they were gonna propose some other type of punishment.


Only a small town Catholic school would think they get to decide what the punishment will be for coaches and players no longer involved with their school.
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10552 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:37 am to
LINK

Saw this video this AM of the end of the hearing yesterday. Feel for the kid
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40281 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:38 am to
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actually it is not, not if the the kid was already in the school and it was not used as an inducement. Many private schools have programs(legal) to help families in economic distress with tuition.


That offer being made after the Dad was fired, is surely an inducement to stay, which is also against the rules.

Why would the school fire the dad, then later on offer him a volunteer coaching assignment?

The problem is the line between "legal" aid and "unallowed" aid is insanely thin and gray.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40281 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:42 am to
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so because a dad gets fired - all rules go out the window>?


Yes, I would not say all rules, but this one should be.

I think there is a difference between dad quitting to take a job at another school, and dad getting fired from a school.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:08 pm to
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I think there is a difference between dad quitting to take a job at another school, and dad getting fired from a school.

That's stupid. But par from the course for you

How many dad's will willingly create an issue at a school they want to leave, so they can get fired, and then take their star son to a brand new school?


Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40281 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:19 pm to
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How many dad's will willingly create an issue at a school they want to leave, so they can get fired, and then take their star son to a brand new school?


Do you really have that negative of a view of our society?

Are there that many dads out there living through their children?

You are one of them, aren't you?
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:26 pm to
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Do you really have that negative of a view of our society?

um, tell me again what this family just did to their own son?


I'll hang up and listen
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40281 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:31 pm to
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um, tell me again what this family just did to their own son?


Dad was fired, Dad got a new job, dad wanted to live close to work, son wanted to live with dad.

End of story.

1) Many people want to live close to their place of employment.

2) Many sons want to live with their fathers.

You are going to need more evidence.

Edit: You have never used "evidence" in any other of your ramblings, so I don't expect it here. Take your idiotic tard self back to the poli board, where you can be among your equals.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted by TheMailman
Member since Jul 2017
1550 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:34 pm to
And the above scenario could make the student athlete ineligible. What don't you get about hat???
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40281 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:38 pm to
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And the above scenario could make the student athlete ineligible. What don't you get about hat???


How so? My above scenario is a bona-fide move. People ARE allowed to move, according to LHSAA rules without sitting out a year, provided the rules are followed.

Also,
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could


The way this works is the staff/lower level follows the rules to letter of the rule as best they can. The appeal process then allows additional factors/evidence/issues to be considered. It's like this in many, many aspects of life.

However, the LHSAA appeal process is generally a joke, because you know who runs it? The same principals who do a crappy job running Louisiana schools.

Why would anyone think that crappy principals who run crappy schools would have any sort of ability to run an appeal process?

The LHSAA is broken. This is just the 36376th example of that.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5363 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:44 pm to
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How so? My above scenario is a bona-fide move. People ARE allowed to move, according to LHSAA rules without sitting out a year, provided the rules are followed.


I was on Robinson's side but if he had family living in the house he left, according to the LHSAA handbook hes ineligible. The former dwelling must be abandoned by all family.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:52 pm to
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How so? My above scenario is a bona-fide move

No, It Is Not

You cannot maintain separate households for athletic purposes. Dad was a long time coach. He knows the rule. He just didn't care, Gonna teach that school a lesson for firing me!!!

Plus, putting his kid on a mag cover, in the new team's jersey. Before he was cleared or enrolled? Dumb. Dumb. Dumb!
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:04 pm to
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transfer before the school year ended.


That’s dumber than the kid wearing the jersey for the photo.
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