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Guice and Miles allegations further proof how college football is so out of control!

Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:01 pm
I know someone will say it's only allegations, but there's too much smoke for something not to have happened. I don't think these young ladies woke up one day and said I'm going to make up some crap up about the head football coach of a major university and the star running back just to have some fun.

It's amazing to me how much crap is covered up and to what extent these universities will go to in order to protect these individuals. Imagine the crap over the years that has been covered up and we will never know about. Sadly, this problem is not an LSU problem, but this is something that has been happening for years across campuses nationwide!

These two cases are just a small glimpse of how out of control college football has become. When football coaches make 5xs more than their bosses and players are given money, girls, cars, jobs and houses to sign with a school, something needs to change or it's only going to get worse.

The reality is college football has nothing to do with college! It's about big money and winning at all costs. At what point do the fans and universities demand major changes be made or do we continue to look the other way while college football gets more and more out of control?

If you think things are bad now, you ain't seen nothing yet!
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:02 pm to
It's not a college football problem, it's a money problem.

These things happen everywhere and are covered up everywhere anyone stands to lose money by them coming out.
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:03 pm to
I absolutely agree, but how do you get it under control. I don't know if that is possible!
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 4:04 pm
Posted by SeaBass23
VA
Member since Jul 2019
1587 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:09 pm to
Florida during Urban Meyer had a serial killer and a player that choked a coach. I think half of the National Championship team was arrested at some point. Yet, they had Tebow to provide a clean image
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:16 pm to
Yep. No sexual assaults, rapes, harassment, false accusations, etc. happen on campuses in general. ONLY the football programs.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112338 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:17 pm to
Putting Guice and Miles in the same bucket is pretty absurd
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:18 pm to
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but how do you get it under control.


eliminate people altogether
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:19 pm to
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Florida during Urban Meyer had a serial killer and a player that choked a coach.


You left out the guy that stole the identity of his dead teammate.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9348 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:22 pm to
Men have been chasing women for thousands of years and using positions of wealth and authority to take advantage. You seriously think this is a recent phenomenon? And restricted to college sports? Btw it's not only men chasing women, it goes both ways and is true for gays as well.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42710 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:25 pm to
Remember when all the allegations about Miles came out during his time at Oklahoma St

Miles was a renegade coach and is being exposed for who he truly is and he learned it from the best in McCartney at Colorado. It's also glaring how Michigan passed on him and the rumors were that there was a reason they did!

The problem at LSU is on Alleva's watch
That dude had no clue how to run a college athletics program
Why is Segar involved in all of these cases as the point person? That is a problem in itself. I can't imagine the stress she has had to deal with. Everyone has attacked Segar for no reason.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28384 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:30 pm to
The ONLY difference between now and 30, 40, 50 years ago is that there are more sources to disseminate information than ever before. Stuff like this has been happening for decades...at many schools across the country. Hell, Billy Cannon was CONSTANTLY getting in trouble with the law for drinking, fighting, and all kinds of other shite while he was at LSU. It just got covered up and there were only 2-3 media outlets around to potentially find it.

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The reality is college football has nothing to do with college! It's about big money and winning at all costs. At what point do the fans and universities demand major changes be made or do we continue to look the other way while college football gets more and more out of control?


If it offends your sensibilities or moral code then stop supporting it.

It is a multi-million dollar entertainment business masquerading at amateur athletics. One that is beholden to the market factors of supply and demand. The demand for their school to win at a big time level is high while the supply of coaches/players that can make that happen is low. With the enterprise comes big money, notoriety, fame, power, appeal and privilege. Always has, always will. Particularly when the participants are immature 18-21 year old men. Many of whom come from underprivileged backgrounds and/or little to no parental structure whatsoever.



Posted by tigerspin
Member since Dec 2008
1683 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 5:42 pm to
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These things happen everywhere and are covered up everywhere anyone stands to lose money by them coming out.


Bingo. How many big budget and successful projects did Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby do before they got outed? As long as the money is coming in, an awful lot of people will keep it under wraps if it lines their pockets.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22794 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:08 pm to
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 amazing to me how much crap is covered up and to what extent these universities will go to in order to protect these individuals.


Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9348 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:58 pm to
I'm sure they will rehash pokey chapman and John Brady soon. I think every college team has had these coverups, I'm just thankful it's not pedophilia like Penn St.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68322 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:48 pm to
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It's amazing to me how much crap is covered up and to what extent these universities will go to in order to protect these individuals
College football is a cesspool. There needs to be a reset and only students are allowed to play instead of these dopes who are only there for football.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:56 pm to
Guice almost Cost O the job by running the wrong way v UF. I never was a big guice guy. Imagine if that UF loss would have cost O the job.

No burrow.
No title last year.
No GOAT season.

guice almost cost us all of that.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112682 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:56 pm to
What’s the average power 5 football ACT? An 18? It’s embarrassing when you really cut to the details.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:00 pm to
18 ain’t that bad. Average. . You offspring prob will be in the 18 range if I have to guess from seeing you posts from the last decade or so. It is nothing wrong with 18.
Posted by tigers25
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2020
2158 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:09 pm to
Pretty sure the NCAA lets the athletes take the best subsection score and combine to one super score. So they can take it 4 times and strictly focus on one section each time. It’s laughable.

No way the true average ACT for power 5 football would be above a 15-16. So many of those dudes are straight dumb and flat out stupid.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112682 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:12 pm to
18 for football players would be generous
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