re: Gregg Doyel taking no Paterno prisoners

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hopefully this is one of them.

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Actually it is. I've agreed with him on most of the stuff he's written about PSU.

I still want to punch him, though.

I think Scott Paterno is hiding the Joe Pa statute under his polo shirt.

Yeah you suck. Rational lawyer thinking tells me that the umpteen boys that testified is enough evidence for me. When more comes out Jay might need pro bono services from his brother.

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I'm not sure your rights to an appeal apply to NCAA actions. But then again, I haven't taken NCAA Civil Procedure yet...

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You should.

Oh, but then again made up classes would not apply...since I never said the Paterno family has a right to appeal a decision accepted by the University...simply that what the Paterno's said in their released paragraph I highlighted was the truth in how this was handled and adjudged by the public and the NCAA. For such an enormous case rife with emotion, the process deserved more than lip service and rubber-stamping one man's report.

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For such an enormous case rife with emotion, the process deserved more than lip service and rubber-stamping one man's report.

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Then Jay Paterno should be bitching at Penn State for signing off on the penalties to begin with.

They never HAD to accept it. They might not have wanted to because of fear of what else the NCAA could find, but they didn't have to accept anything if they were that worried about the "lack of due process".

The university accepted the penalties as they should have.
Nobody got railroaded here,as you're implying.
This is just the remainder of a morally bankrupt family attempting to salvage the reputation of a piece of shite.
People believed for a long time that Joepa was some sort of exceptional man of character in a culture of cheaters and rule benders,we now know better.
Swift judgement isn't always incorrect.

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you have no idea what due process is or when it is required

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You're not afforded due process in the court of public opinion,or by the NCAA.

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He went to law school, and may have even passed he bar. However, I get the impression he pretty much just mooched off of Joe.

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A buddy of mine knows him. They were in the same fantasy football league. My buddy said things got mighty quiet on the league message boards last fall when all this stuff went down. Said it was really awkward for everybody.

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Not only is there nothing wrong with this...it should be followed in any case...let alone a case of this magnitude.

But everyone just wants it swiftly dealt with because extraordinary circumstances involving sensitive and deeply emotional crimes need not be thorough - just swift.

It looks bad that it's the Paterno family doing this but they shouldn't have had to...we have yet to hear in court from the two people indicted - and yet the NCAA decision becomes final. A decision which is precisely hinged upon what those indicted (and Paterno) did or did not do - not what Sandusky did or what was revealed in his trial.

The NCAA should at least await testified facts and not merely a report by one group without testimony or sworn statements upon which a judgment call was made by one person.

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1. I agree with your general point here. The NCAA knows that nobody feels sorry for Penn State, and that they can basically do whatever the frick they want without repercussion. The NCAA can't operate in an arbitrary and capricious manner and without any fear of repercussion from any sort of overseeing body. I mean, they can legally. But it's just bad policy. There is a reason that procedures exist in all facets of life. It isn't for kicks and giggles. The NCAA followed zero procedures. They took the procedure portion of their own book and they yanked all those pages out and wiped their arse with them. For this and other reasons, I can't condone the actions taken by the NCAA and the manner in which they took them.

2. That said, there is another legal concept in play here called 'standing'. The Paterno family doesn't have it. Their letter to the NCAA had as much chance of achieving its desired effect as my letter to Emma Watson respectfully requesting some reverse cowgirl action. As such, they are doing nothing but making themselves look bad. They should shut the frick up. And Scott should go on a diet. He is fatter than shite.

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Zamoro10

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You suck in every thread

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I second this motion

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Third

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I also vote Yea to this motion