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re: Goran Dragic says he won't re-sign with the Suns according USA today
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:26 am to sunnydaze
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:26 am to sunnydaze
quote:
this dude is worse than lester earl who said jimmy butler wouldn't sustain his great play throughout the season and that he was just having a good month early on
By saying that Reggie Jackson is a comparable player to George Hill?
You act like the dude is a future all-star, which is awesome
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:28 am to PortCityTiger24
Agree with you here Port, his ceiling would be abt the 10th best PG in the league. Dragic is a much better player.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:29 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Dragic is a much better player.
per 48: RJ(24 y/o)- 22 ppg 7 rpg 7 apg 86% FT
GD(28 y/o)- 23/5/6 75% FT
if his ceiling is the 10th best pg then that's still better than GD who has reached his ceiling and still isn't a top 10 pg
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:37 am to sunnydaze
Take a look at Darren Collison's per 48 minutes in NO before being a full time starter (and a younger player).
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:40 am to sunnydaze
quote:
this dude is worse than lester earl who said jimmy butler wouldn't sustain his great play throughout the season and that he was just having a good month early on
First 31 games
49% shooting
22 ppg
His last 20 games since the start of 2015
41% FG shooting
17.7ppg.
That's pretty meh. I think I said he'd drop to a 16ppg guy, i wasn't that far off. Realize he leads the NBA in minutes per game. He's basically who I thought he was.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:41 am to sunnydaze
What I like about Dragic is that he isn't a selfish basketball player. Guy can play without the ball in his hands, but he is also very skilled. If I could put any NBA point guard next to Harden, Dragic is VERY high on my list.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:43 am to Lester Earl
quote:
First 31 games
49% shooting
22 ppg
His last 20 games since the start of 2015
41% FG shooting
17.7ppg.
That's pretty meh. I think I said he'd drop to a 16ppg guy, i wasn't that far off. Realize he leads the NBA in minutes per game. He's basically who I thought he was.
I think you can blame most of that on the re-integration of Rose back into the lineup rather than an actual decline in play. Going from being the primary option to secondary option would throw anyone off his game.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:45 am to SwaggerCopter
quote:
What I like about Dragic is that he isn't a selfish basketball player.
this is one of Reggie Jackson's downfalls. Mainly his 3point shooting. He's a terrible 3pt shooter but continues to hoist them.
He makes something like 49% of all 2pt FGs. If he played within himself and realized he isnt a long distance shooter(say like Tony Parker) then he'd be onto something.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:48 am to Goldrush25
quote:
I think you can blame most of that on the re-integration of Rose back into the lineup rather than an actual decline in play
he's taking the same amount of shots, and playing 38mpg vs 40mpg(and that is skewed because he left the last game early).. So that's terrible reasoning.
most players would get better if you put another good player next to him. At the very least they will become more efficient.. His FG% has plummeted.
Im not saying Jimmy Butler is a bad player. But he is who I thought he was and its laughable to attempt to say I was far off on him.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:50 am to Lester Earl
Evaluating point guards is one of the most difficult things to do. Too many assists could mean ball stopper who is always looking to make the last pass. Too many points could mean they aren't running the offense well. A point guard has three important jobs. Run the offense (this doesn't mean dribble around hogging the ball), handle the ball well in tight situations, and play defense on the opposing PG.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:53 am to Lester Earl
Darren Collison stats per 48 in NO before being the full time starter in Indy:
21.5ppg, 4.4 reb, 9.8 assists, 1.8 stl, 47.7 fg%, 85.1 ft%...as a 22 year old!!
21.5ppg, 4.4 reb, 9.8 assists, 1.8 stl, 47.7 fg%, 85.1 ft%...as a 22 year old!!
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:53 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:
Take a look at Darren Collison's per 48 minutes in NO before being a full time starter (and a younger player).
This is what I was going to say. Jackson a a little bit better version of Darren Collison.
If you compare Jackson and Dragic and ignore their shooting percentages you're being willfully ignorant. Jackson can't shoot from the perimeter and shoots 43% from the field vs 50% from the field for Dragic:
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 10:56 am
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:55 am to Epic Cajun
You aren't taking in to account the fact that OKC doesn't have an offense. 
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:00 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:
Darren Collison stats per 48 in NO before being the full time starter in Indy:
21.5ppg, 4.4 reb, 9.8 assists, 1.8 stl, 47.7 fg%, 85.1 ft%...as a 22 year old!!
yea but on the other hand, remember when HOU got Dragic from PHO? he was a nobody before that. He started some games in HOU in his 3rd season
28 games as a starter, he posted 18/8. So sometimes when guys flash, they aren't always Darren Collison. Sometimes its just a matter of getting more minutes. Even though Collison isnt a terrible player by any means.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:03 am to Lester Earl
I don't think Collison is terrible, but Goran Dragic is better, by far.
Dragic is playing out of position at SG and is probably a top 5 player at that position this season.
Dragic is playing out of position at SG and is probably a top 5 player at that position this season.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:15 am to Epic Cajun
quote:
but Goran Dragic is better, by far.
just for shits and giggles, can you tell me which player is Collison and which is Dragic? Without looking.
PLAYER A
33mpg
16.2 ppg
4ast
3.6 rebounds
16.6 PER
PLAYER B
34.8 mpg
16.1 ppg
5.6 ast
3.2 reb
17.7 PER
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 11:15 am
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:17 am to Lester Earl
Tell me their shooting percentages and I'll be able to tell you immediately.
ETA: I misread your post and thought you were comparing Jackson and Dragic. But I can tell you that the first player is Dragic because I know his stats
ETA: I misread your post and thought you were comparing Jackson and Dragic. But I can tell you that the first player is Dragic because I know his stats
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 11:20 am
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:19 am to Epic Cajun
Collison : 47 fg 37 3pt
Dragic : 50 fg 35 3pt
Collison actually has the higher efficiency rating. He'd be PLAYER B
Dragic : 50 fg 35 3pt
Collison actually has the higher efficiency rating. He'd be PLAYER B
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:22 am to Lester Earl
Collison signed for the MLE this past off season, Dragic will likely sign for triple that.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:31 am to Lester Earl
I totally agree. I don't think that Jackson is a scrub, but to me he's a solid player like Collison or George Hill. For the record I don't think Dragic is all that great, but I would rather have him than Jackson.
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