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re: George Mason pitcher Sang Ho Baek dies following complications from Tommy John surgery
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:34 pm to gobuxgo5
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:34 pm to gobuxgo5
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Can you link to another example of someone dying from Tommy John?
Again, he didn’t die of Tommy John surgery. He died of a well known post-op complication called a pulmonary embolism.
And aside from the fact that I personally had one person die of this complication after this surgery as a resident, 2 MLB minor league pitchers have died from the same complication after the same surgery since 1990.
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:36 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Don't go to a hospital unless necessary. They're bacteria farms and no surgery is routine.
This is accurate
Any doctor who talks to you about “routine surgery” is full of shite. ANY procedure or surgery that involves general anesthesia has at least a 1% serious complication risk and usually higher.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:02 pm to Roger Klarvin
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ANY procedure or surgery that involves general anesthesia has at least a 1% serious complication risk and usually higher.
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frick you, you have no goddamn idea what you’re talking about.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:03 pm to Roger Klarvin
So it was his arm not his lower extremity which cause the DVTs which lead to a pulmonary embolism. He was not immobile because I assume he could walk. Tommy John surgery last roughly 1 to 2 hours which would rarely cause a clot to develop for such a short operation.
Maybe he had an undiagnosed clotting disorder? Congenital heart anomaly?
However when you are pushing young healthy adults to get a vaccine which is much more likely to be cause complications than a disease with an infinitesimal chance of causing serious harm these cases need to be evaluated.
Maybe he had an undiagnosed clotting disorder? Congenital heart anomaly?
However when you are pushing young healthy adults to get a vaccine which is much more likely to be cause complications than a disease with an infinitesimal chance of causing serious harm these cases need to be evaluated.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:05 pm to dred24
I do this for a living motherfricker
List one single procedure performed under general anesthesia with a peer reviewed study showing a <1% complication risk. I’ll fricking wait you little bitch.
List one single procedure performed under general anesthesia with a peer reviewed study showing a <1% complication risk. I’ll fricking wait you little bitch.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:08 pm to LittleRockDoc
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However when you are pushing young healthy adults to get a vaccine which is much more likely to be cause complications than a disease with an infinitesimal chance of causing serious harm these cases need to be evaluated
Cite the data that shows a higher demonstrable complication rate due to the vaccine than from COVID19. Hell, give me data showing a complication rate within TWO orders of magnitude and you’ll get at least partial credit.
You know better than this
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:11 pm to Roger Klarvin
FYI I do this for a living too. Won't call you names. Obviously you have issues.
Vaers data, no long term data, risk/reward for vaxx for healthy adults should give you pause.
Of course surgery isn't risk free which is not my point. But if there is a connection between vaccination and hypercoaguability, I would like that to be evaluated before I subject my child to a vaccine out less than a year.
Vaers data, no long term data, risk/reward for vaxx for healthy adults should give you pause.
Of course surgery isn't risk free which is not my point. But if there is a connection between vaccination and hypercoaguability, I would like that to be evaluated before I subject my child to a vaccine out less than a year.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I do this for a living motherfricker
No you don’t.
You have absolutely know idea what you are talking about.
You are just some angry little punk on a message board.
You are the one that griped about people spreading misinformation then you went and did the same thing.
You posted the stat. You prove it. But you can’t so you won’t.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:13 pm to LittleRockDoc
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LittleRockDoc
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FYI I do this for a living too
Chiropractor?
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:14 pm to TK421
Facebook post getting the vaxx?
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:20 pm to dred24
You want me to post EVERY student for EVERY procedure ever? 
That’s not how the burden of proof works
That’s not how the burden of proof works
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:24 pm to LittleRockDoc
I wasn’t speaking to you in that particular post, and I’m not talking about vaccinating kids. I actually don’t believe there’s any benefit to vaccinating kids and it’s a waste of resources, though it’s unlikely to be particularly dangerous to do so.
I thought you were claiming there was data to show it was more dangerous to receive the vaccine than to get COVID19, which is demonstrably false. If not then we have no beef.
I thought you were claiming there was data to show it was more dangerous to receive the vaccine than to get COVID19, which is demonstrably false. If not then we have no beef.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:25 pm to dred24
Survival rate of covid for healthy adults 99.9999999%
More deaths reported in the vaers database the last year than the last 20 years combined?
Science/medicine is never settled. The idea that these facts don't make you at least question the vaccine shows a lack of critical thinking.
But hey I am sure you are good lifting help in the OR
More deaths reported in the vaers database the last year than the last 20 years combined?
Science/medicine is never settled. The idea that these facts don't make you at least question the vaccine shows a lack of critical thinking.
But hey I am sure you are good lifting help in the OR
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Again, he didn’t die of Tommy John surgery. He died of a well known post-op complication called a pulmonary embolism.
And aside from the fact that I personally had one person die of this complication after this surgery as a resident, 2 MLB minor league pitchers have died from the same complication after the same surgery since 1990.
So zero known cases of anyone dying after Tommy John?
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:00 pm to gobuxgo5
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So zero known cases of anyone dying after Tommy John?
Can you read?!
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:01 pm to UltimateHog
Sum ting wong
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:07 pm to LittleRockDoc
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Survival rate of covid for healthy adults 99.9999999%
This is false
Survival rate for COVID19 infections under age 30-35 is 99.99%, and in this demographic influenza is more dangerous (particularly in those under 18). The mortality rates cross in the mid to late 30s, and by the time you are 40 even previously health adults have a mortality around 0.03% (much higher than influenza, by two orders of magnitude). Once you hit 50 the mortality approaches 1% overall and around 0.5% in previously healthy people. Over 65 and the mortality for everyone regardless of comorbid conditions is above 1%. By 80 even the healthiest people carry close to a 5% mortality.
But this is really ignoring the bigger problem with respect to the young and healthy, where morbidity dominates and this metric is EXPONENTIALLY higher than in influenza. The chronic symptomatic complication rate from influenza in young heathy people is around 0.001%. In COVID19 it’s around 5% for those under 40 and only goes up with age.
I’ve NEVER sent a healthy adult under 40 home with oxygen after influenza. I do this several times a month with COVID19.
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