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Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:43 pm to
Rockets were one of the worst teams to come out the west in a long time. Discipline be chemistry wise. They would've lost to any team in the playoffs this year
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:43 pm to
Remember when some people thought the east was finally better than the West this year?
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:43 pm to
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Full strength Clippers/Grizzlies are better than this Raptors team in a 7-game series, IMO.


The Grizz style of play is a near blessing in disguise for the Raptors.

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:44 pm to
Jesus, who said anything even close to that?

I'm saying that the Cavs are playing phenomenal ball while also whipping the shite out of sneaky bad playoff teams. I'm saying that the west has less bad playoff teams, and is therefore more competitive/tougher to win.

None of this is even that far-fetched.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 8:45 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:45 pm to
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My argument is that the east is worse than the west, and that the Cavs have not been tested yet because of that fact.

I'm right, so my argument doesn't suck at all.


GS is just now being tested so your argument does suck. West is only better than the east with their top 4 teams, top 3 of Clippers aren't healthy
Posted by jg8623
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:45 pm to
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So those losses don't count?



They do. But they didn't have Curry

Not trying to downplay what the Cavs have done by any means. But if your gonna bring up wins and losses you have to consider that.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

I'm saying that the Cavs are playing phenomenal ball while also whipping the shite out of sneaky bad playoff teams. I'm saying that the west has less bad playoff teams, and is therefore more competitive/tougher to win.

None of this is even that far-fetched.



The west had the 2 worst teams in the playoffs, arguably 3 or 4 worst
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34949 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:46 pm to
So golden state has to win a tough series before playing the Cavs, and the Cavs don't?

That's pretty much my entire point.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:47 pm to
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it doesn't have to be one or the other. It can be both, and it probably is.



This. Everyone has to pick a clear side these days for some reason and it's usually a little of both
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:47 pm to
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I'm im sorry Cavs fans but LeBron is such a candyass sometimes. Holding his head like he got hurt




He took an elbow straight to the back of the head. People who hate Lebron are morons.

He is one of the best players to ever come to the NBA as far as talent and image. He isn't an a-hole like some superstars. He plays team ball unlike some other superstars. He constantly is improving his game. He stays out of trouble.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11559 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:50 pm to
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And yes the Cavs are playing great ball. It just sucks that they only have to win one legitimately competitive series to win a title.


This was the first thing you said I disagreed with. Insinuation
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22951 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:51 pm to
The fact that the Toronto Raptors are in the Eastern Conference Finals tells you everything you need to know about what a joke the East is.

It's like the Panthers playing the Redskins for a trip to the Superbowl.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:51 pm to
He should name the last legitimately competitive series GS won. I'll wait
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:52 pm to
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If you talking against the Cavs... The GSW just beat them 4-1 with Curry missing a few games and not playing that well. You think the Cavs couldn't beat them 4-1 or 4-0 at full health..?




The Cavs easily would win 4-1 or 4-0. Just because someone says they haven't played great teams doesn't mean they think Cle wouldn't do the same things against west teams
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:53 pm to
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So just because they don't play the greatest team of all time every series, their title is discounted?



Literally no one has said this
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22701 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:53 pm to
Why? The Raptors had the 4th most wins in the NBA this year.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11559 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:54 pm to
But you can't judge the eastern conference teams on what the cavs are doing to them. These teams all had great regular seasons and you don't know how a series between them and the west teams would go.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 8:55 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34949 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:54 pm to
The Warriors are playing the Thunder right now. The Thunder, who have two of the ten best players alive, and who just beat a historically-great-in-the regular-season Spurs team to even get to the conference finals. The Warriors have to win that series to even make it to the finals.

The Cavs are playing derozan/Lowry and the Toronto fricking Raptors.

If you don't understand why there's a difference, then nothing I can say will be of any help to you.
Posted by dlmast87
Amish Country
Member since Dec 2007
1941 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:55 pm to
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The Warriors are playing the Thunder right now. The Thunder, who have two of the ten best players alive, and who just beat a historically-great-in-the regular-season Spurs team to even get to the conference finals. The Warriors have to win that series to even make it to the finals. The Cavs are playing derozan/Lowry and the Toronto fricking Raptors. If you don't understand why there's a difference, then nothing I can say will be of any help to you.


just enjoy the great basketball the cavs are playing.....damn
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83571 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:55 pm to
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He is one of the best players to ever come to the NBA as far as talent and image. He isn't an a-hole like some superstars. He plays team ball unlike some other superstars. He constantly is improving his game. He stays out of trouble.

But he has an awkward personality sometimes and sells fouls!!!!
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