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re: Formula 1 2021 Season Thread
Posted on 6/20/21 at 2:25 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 6/20/21 at 2:25 pm to fightin tigers
My point is exactly that Bottas is just deflecting blame. He’s raging for no reason. 2 stop strategy lands him in the same spot most likely.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 3:10 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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My point is exactly that Bottas is just deflecting blame. He’s raging for no reason. 2 stop strategy lands him in the same spot most likely.
Bottas has every right to be pissed… his team never goes along with anything he wants. I remember vividly last year him asking to be out on opposite tires of what they were putting on Ham and they didn’t.
They treat him like dog shite and I’m glad he’s blasting them over radio for all to hear.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 3:47 pm to Lsut81
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I remember vividly last year him asking to be out on opposite tires of what they were putting on Ham and they didn’t.
Do you remember Bottas having to come in before Hamilton in that race? Because Merc were going to allow Bottas to go on a different strategy if he stayed out after Hamilton. Hamilton went much longer and was able to make the request to stay on the same tires as Bottas. Guy who is out longer gets to dictate his race.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:05 pm to fightin tigers
Yes and Mercedes even had to address it after the fact and say they overruled Bottas wanting to go on Mediums bc of “tire issues”. So they could have done it, but they chose not to. Hamilton came in the very next lap, so it was all pre determined.
Hamilton didn’t request anything, the team did it.
Hamilton didn’t request anything, the team did it.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:51 pm to Lsut81
I'm speaking of the 2020 Portuguese GP.
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 6/20/21 at 5:03 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 6/20/21 at 5:06 pm to JoeHackett
Sounds like Bottas should have taken care of his tires better.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 5:17 pm to fightin tigers
I understand everyone's point but the fact is that Bottas is a #2 driver. He acts like a #2 driver, he drives like a #2 driver and is then treated like a #2 driver.
He could change that I suppose. But he seems content in his position.
I just hate the double standard by the media. They get selectively outraged by some of this stuff and then praise Mercedes for doing the same thing.
Kimi treated like a #2 at Ferrari - media complains
Bottas treated like a #2 at Mercedes - media praise
Massa moves over for Alonso in Germany - media outrage
Bottas moves over for Lewis in Russia - media praise
Overall though I hate Bottas because he drives like a pussy.
So I don't care what happens to that guy.
He could change that I suppose. But he seems content in his position.
I just hate the double standard by the media. They get selectively outraged by some of this stuff and then praise Mercedes for doing the same thing.
Kimi treated like a #2 at Ferrari - media complains
Bottas treated like a #2 at Mercedes - media praise
Massa moves over for Alonso in Germany - media outrage
Bottas moves over for Lewis in Russia - media praise
Overall though I hate Bottas because he drives like a pussy.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 5:22 pm to JoeHackett
Look at media bias in the eyes of British vs everyone else.
British teams and drivers (and moves benefiting British drivers) get praised more and non-British drivers usually get critiqued harder.
Never really noticed until it was pointed out to me a couple years ago.
British teams and drivers (and moves benefiting British drivers) get praised more and non-British drivers usually get critiqued harder.
Never really noticed until it was pointed out to me a couple years ago.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 6:06 pm to Lsut81
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Bottas has every right to be pissed… his team never goes along with anything he wants. I remember vividly last year him asking to be out on opposite tires of what they were putting on Ham and they didn’t.
They treat him like dog shite and I’m glad he’s blasting them over radio for all to hear.
All that being true, he has no basis for complaining about strategy today in this race.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 6:08 pm to fightin tigers
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British teams and drivers (and moves benefiting British drivers) get praised more and non-British drivers usually get critiqued harder.
I recall this in the Damon Hill era. It was hill this and hill that and anything contrary to that was always someone else’s fault. Usually Schumacher.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 8:14 pm to siliconvalleytiger
That was one hell of a race today. I wonder what happened to Ferrari’s race pace.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:44 pm to VABuckeye
Me too.
What was different about the street circuits?
What was different about the street circuits?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:49 pm to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:42 pm to fightin tigers
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Yas Marina reveals its new look
Wow, that looks like it could add 10s a lap.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:55 pm to fightin tigers
At first I thought they didn't touch the third sector, but I see they rounded off some of those 90 degree turns. All-in-all I like the changes. We'll see.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:03 pm to fightin tigers
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Sounds like Bottas should have taken care of his tires better.
Perez beat him by going slower and being in clean air. That allowed him to save his tires to go extra long on the first stint. Thus the 1 stop strategy worked.
Being in traffic like Max and Bottas following cars, the 2 stop strategy was the better strategy.
Bottas also guess that tire degradation was much more that Merc expected.
Undercut being so strong surprised Merc.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:04 pm to Kingpenm3
That removal of the first chicane should be fun. Kind od remimds me of the COTA hairpin and back stretch.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:52 pm to Kingpenm3
Looks like it will make for much quicker times to me
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:54 pm to UncleFestersLegs
For the upcoming Austrian double header, will there be any differences between the two GPs? Minor rule changes, different tire compounds, anything? Or will the 2nd be a carbon copy of the 1st?
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