re: for those of you annointing Tebow after going 4-1 as a starter

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How is that any different than a QB that throws for 220 a game and gets you nearly no rushing yards? Again, do yards in the air count for more than yards on the ground?

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because he goes stretches (ie 3.5 quarters) where the offense cannot do anything.

not because of his weapons, but because of his inability to throw the ball.


you dont see how that can come back to hurt him against good teams?

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I watch a lot of football. I still play competitive sport. Attributing TEAM SUCCESS to ONE GUY (particularly one guy who's not playing well) is an insult to the rest of the players in the locker room.

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Tebow doesn't make his defense better. The belief (by the entire team) that they can actually win games makes the entire team better. And again, it's not all Tebow. He's just the guy that initiated the spark that boosted the confidence of this squad. The Broncos were a dejected team with no life with Orton as starter.

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the body language of his WR's everytime he threw the ball into the ground was not good.

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Are you talking about last night, or previous weeks? There were 5 dropped balls that were easily catchable. Decker, I guess his #1 WR had a terrible game.

I think if anything, the WRs could have been frustrated with some of the play calling. If they spread it out like they did on the final drive I think they'd have more success.

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And Tebow can't do shite for 55 minutes.

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So why does Tebow start over Orton? You think the coaches won't start the player that gives them the best shot at winning?

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Are you talking about last night, or previous weeks?

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last night

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There were 5 dropped balls that were easily catchable

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2 or 3 in my eyes. Not 5.

that is arbitrary though. Lets say there were 5, he threw 8-10 balls that weren't close.

He missed Decker on what would have been their biggest play of the game when he got behind the secondary. I saw Decker drop 1 bad ball, and he was probably shocked it came anywhere close to his hands

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You think the coaches won't start the player that gives them the best shot at winning?

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They had to change things up. However, that doesn't make Tebow a better QB, or even a real QB.

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You attribute it to Tebow--unjustly, I might add. I attribute it to adjustments made by the coaching staff during the bye week.

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Well, thats just idiotic. Planning in the off week has nothing to do with Linebackers and Defensive ends chest bumping and pumping Tebow and themselves up. This is rarely seen in todays game, very rare.

Hey, I know Tebow is a poor thrower and I dont know how much better he will get. I do know this,

1. He will outwork anyone to try to improve.
2. He will sell out on every play he plays.
3. If the staff asked him to play nose tackle for a series he would do it without question.

"He has guts, and sometimes guts is enough"

I hope the guy continues to improve and win. In a time of shite athletes for role models he is a great one for youngsters imo.

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How did he react?

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he looked pissed

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Well, thats just idiotic.

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What, something tangible is idiotic?

OK...

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1. He will outwork anyone to try to improve.

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So will 99% of the players in the NFL.

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2. He will sell out on every play he plays.

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Again, so will 99% of the players in the NFL.

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3. If the staff asked him to play nose tackle for a series he would do it without question.

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Then maybe he should play running back.

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"He has guts, and sometimes guts is enough"

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I love cliches. They allow one an opportunity to say something without really thinking or really saying anything.

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I hope the guy continues to improve and win. In a time of shite athletes for role models he is a great one for youngsters imo.

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Yeah, Drew Brees is a terrible role model.