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Posted on 6/9/09 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Genghis Khan
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 7:45 pm
Floyd resigns due to a 1k payment to someone close to Mayo, yet Bush's family gets a luxury home and Carroll is still the toast of the town?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 7:50 pm to
As usual there are almost as many comments about USC here as on USC boards.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

As usual there are almost as many comments about USC here as on USC boards.
you have two USC threads on your USC board?

ETA: Three threads... my b I missed the Taylor Mays song girl thread.
This post was edited on 6/9/09 at 7:57 pm
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

you have two USC threads on your USC board?


What a shitty board.
Posted by EmoryTiger
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2006
156 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

As usual there are almost as many comments about USC here as on USC boards.


The head coach of a major college program just resigned because of an NCAA investigation into cheating. This is going to be discussed on a "more sports board."
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 5:38 am to
quote:

The head coach of a major college program just resigned because of an NCAA investigation into cheating. This is going to be discussed on a "more sports board."


Uh, this thread started on the rant.

My comment was a reflection of both boards (USC and td.com). There were so many threads here that the mods had to clean them up. Actually, it was funny.

But I'll reiterate anyway...usually easier to get USC updates here (MSB included) than on USC boards
This post was edited on 6/10/09 at 6:44 am
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13136 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 5:46 am to
IMHO Floyd is taking the fall for letting Rodney Guillory hang around the program, whether it's really his fault or not.

Carroll had fockall to do with Reggie Bush's family housing in San Diego County.

If Floyd really did offer any players money, our basketball program is toast, and frankly it should be.

I don't believe the football program will be affected by any of this though, and I don't believe it should be.

The two incidents are night and day in terms of (alleged) culpability.
This post was edited on 6/10/09 at 5:49 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/10/09 at 6:21 am to
Agree. Five year long wishful thinking from the rant.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 8:13 am to
Well you could combine Reggie's family housing sitch with Dwayne Jarret paying like $100 to stay in a resort during his playing days.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/10/09 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Floyd resigns due to a 1k payment to someone close to Mayo, yet Bush's family gets a luxury home and Carroll is still the toast of the town?



Mayo got money to go to USC.

Someone game Bush's family a house in order to persuade his decision upon leaving USC.

If you don't see the difference, then I can't help you.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51427 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Mayo got money to go to USC.

Someone game Bush's family a house in order to persuade his decision upon leaving USC.

If you don't see the difference, then I can't help you.


+1

people just wanna see USC go down so they're hoping something comes out of this. the truth is carroll did not pay bush to go there like floyd did with mayo. doesnt look good for the basketball program, but the football team should be fine

Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 9:38 am to
quote:

LSUTANGERINE


How about you use your witty intelligence on the topic at hand instead of pointing out that there are 2 USC topics on the board.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 9:40 am to
quote:

I don't believe the football program will be affected by any of this though, and I don't believe it should be.

The two incidents are night and day in terms of (alleged) culpability.



The NCAA can say that there is a culture of corruption though and put sanctions on the entire athletic department. IF the Bush thing ever gets investigated and they determine USC is at fault, that is two major violations within 3 years of each other and the NCAA will make an act on all of their athletic programs IMO.

Edit: The technical term is "lack of institutional control"
This post was edited on 6/10/09 at 10:21 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421359 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Floyd resigns due to a 1k payment to someone close to Mayo, yet Bush's family gets a luxury home and Carroll is still the toast of the town?

floyd paid somebody. at the least, a representative of the program paid somebody

the agents/managers who paid bush have no relation to USC
This post was edited on 6/10/09 at 10:28 am
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:33 am to
Exactly. It's really not that difficult to sort it out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:35 am to
the differences between the 2 are not

this difference also explains why it's harder for the NCAA to do anything in the bushgate case (they have power over floyd and other representatives of an NCAA program. they don't have power over 3rd parties, and USC/bush know this)

however, this + what can be proven about bushgate is inching towards LOIC, depending on what teh NCAA actually has on file for bushgate
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35308 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:36 am to
quote:

however, this + what can be proven about bushgate is inching towards LOIC, depending on what teh NCAA actually has on file for bushgate



which is why they linked the two investigations. It's easier then to find total lack of institutional control in the athletic department even without the Bush case testimonies
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421359 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:38 am to
exactly

any other notable problems in the program? any other minor programs on probation?

wasn't basketball just on probation?
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35308 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:42 am to
Football and a couple other sports were on probation starting in 01 because tutors were writing papers for athletes. Pretty sure that was our last major violation just off the top of my head. Pretty sure we're totally clear on any probations right now
This post was edited on 6/10/09 at 10:43 am
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Floyd vs. Carroll
the differences between the 2 are not

this difference also explains why it's harder for the NCAA to do anything in the bushgate case (they have power over floyd and other representatives of an NCAA program. they don't have power over 3rd parties, and USC/bush know this)

however, this + what can be proven about bushgate is inching towards LOIC, depending on what teh NCAA actually has on file for bushgate


yep. USC is the top priority of the NCAA right now.
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