re: Female trainer tries to push Duke player

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Nah, he’s preventing her from doing her job where he is standing.

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Giving him some water?

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ahh yes, the player still in college has more experience than the folks who have graduated with their degrees and have time in the field...

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You're making a lot of assumptions about the situation after just seeing a short video clip.

How do you know the trainers have graduated? How do you know they have been conferred their degrees?
It's quite possible that the player has more emergency medical response experience than any (or just some) of those trainers.

Example: My current position requires me to carry a sidearm and to practice regularly with it. Because of my prior training and years of experience, I am beyond qualified to do so. In fact, I am far more "seasoned" (and perhaps more knowledgeable) than those who instruct me. Due to my level of proficiency, several of them occasionally defer to me. In effect, they yield their authority to my expertise.

I understand this is a concept that's difficult for most of the posters here to grasp. Their insularity and ignorance is often well displayed. ChatGPTofLA seems to demonstrate hers far too often.

Also, have you considered the possibility that the player was communicating something important to the training staff who had already responded and were kneeling? Maybe he was trying to provide them with some detail or details about the patient or the patient's condition that they might not have otherwise been privy to.

Another fairly nuanced detail about the video clip that goes unnoticed by most, the standing player actually looks to identify the person who is attempting to push him away before he swats her arm.
It appears he recognized that she was just a "water girl"! Perhaps he may not have gotten physical with a team doctor or coach?

Just a few thoughts for those with the capacity to intelligently entertain them.
Have a great day!

When I first read this I figured he turned and did it and didnt realize who it was......but after watching he 1000% saw her and did it. He is a punk thug.

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How do you know the trainers have graduated? How do you know they have been conferred their degrees?
It's quite possible that the player has more emergency medical response experience than any (or just some) of those trainers.

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In order to be an athletic trainer with a D1 program, you are in a degree program to participate. Or you are a Masters or Doctorate level trainer (it depends on training/hours you have completed).

In this case, the trainer in question is a Masters level fellow. So yes, she would very likely have more medical knowledge than the player.

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The student assistant trainers, aka the water boys/girls don't go on the field to assist with injured players. They will come on the field to provide water to the active players in the huddle, on the sideline, etc.

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It depends. They do assist with injuries. Providing water/fluids is just one thing on the list of things they provide during an active game. They typically have a fanny pack/bag that they keep that has everything from sodium tablets to bandaids/tape.

Typically what a staff will do is have a group of trainers that stay on the sideline to deal with issues there and a rotation of staff that will run out on the field to provide water but also assist when a player goes down. You typically will also have graduate assistants and the like beyond just your Bachelor's level folks (it's my understanding she's a Masters fellow) that will run out when there's a major injury.

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Does that mean it's not possible for a D1 football player to also be an athletic trainer while they are attending school?
He could be an athletic trainer with far more education and experience? They could be classmates. Perhaps he's senior to her in the Duke University hierarchy of athletic training? Maybe he simply doesn't respect her as a colleague? There may be a personal history.

Whatever the case, he looked at her and quickly ID'd her as someone that he had no qualms with swatting away! Maybe he didn't realize she's a "Masters level fellow." (something else not apparent to viewers)

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Those trainers are with them from the beginning of camp until the end of the season. In daily practices, after/before practice for treatment (i.e., taping, ultrasound therapy for injuries, ice/heat therapy, etc). You're pretty much together 7 days a week (in most programs, Sundays players have to check in to make sure they're not hiding injuries). The players know who you are and what your role is without issue.

It's pretty much impossible to be an athletic trainer for a major D1 school and also be an athlete for that same school.

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Maybe she does have more "athletic training" knowledge that the player. She could also have less!

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You're vastly underestimating the medical knowledge an athletic trainer would have. You're taking classes like kinesiology as a Freshman in undergrad.

ETA: Per Duke's athletics page, Kimari Robinson is a Psych major with a minor in African and African-American Studies. He's also a Redshirt Junior. So I think it's safe to say a Masters level athletic trainer would have significantly more medical knowledge than him at this point.

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The players know who you are and what your role is

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It appears that we agree.

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without issue

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That doesn't seem to be the case here. There was a definite and immediate disregard on the part of the standing player as to why the athletic trainer put her hands on him!

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It's pretty much impossible to be an athletic trainer for a major D1 school and also be an athlete for that same school.

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I guess we're gonna have to take your word on that.

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You're vastly underestimating the medical knowledge an athletic trainer would have.

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Perhaps I'm just underestimating the amount of experience in emergency medical response that an athletic trainer might have?
I will admit it's possible that someone pursuing a degree in athletic training might have just as much or more EMR training/experience than an athlete playing D1 football.
The opposite can also be true.

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Female trainer tries to push Duke player

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Talk about spin