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re: Federer is a Beast!
Posted on 1/31/10 at 2:34 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Posted on 1/31/10 at 2:34 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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I thought it was pretty obvious that Murray was nervous and it impacted his level of play. He was afraid to even attempt a winner. He had a terrible gameplan. Just putting the ball in play over and over against Fed and waiting for him to make mistakes isn't going to cut it. Like Gilbert said during the match, the only people who have beaten Fed at slams have taken it from. Murray didn't even attempt to take anything until the 3rd set, which was a great, competitive set.
I don't know what makes you think Murray will change. His MO has always been suck it up in the big time matches. He gets cold feet and doesn't have the killer instinct that Fed has. I like how you mention that his game has dropped, but he still cruised through this tourney. He basically had 1 difficult set vs Davydenko (who was on a 12 match win streak), and still dominated.
He's 40-2 in his last 6 majors, winning 4 of them. How the hell can you say he has been slowign down these past couple of years?
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 2:40 pm to ATL_Tiger
By the way, Pete won majors until he was 31, while Agassi won majors until he was 33, and still being cmpetitive till he was 35. Federer's game is much more effortless than theirs (not to mention he dominated much more than them), and I can definitely see Federer winning 1-2 majors/year for the next 3 years, and then 1/year for 3 more years afterwards. (which would put him around 25)
Posted on 1/31/10 at 2:41 pm to ATL_Tiger
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He's 40-2 in his last 6 majors, winning 4 of them. How the hell can you say he has been slowign down these past couple of years?
I don't know how anybody can legitimately try to argue that he hasn't. You think he looks as good as he did when he was 24? I rarely see him play that same level of sublime tennis that he used to. He certainly didn't last night despite whipping Murray.
We're also not strictly speaking about this tourney only. Last year proved that he's no longer invulnerable in slams against anyone not named Nadal. Like USC said, he's still the best player but the gap has started to shrink.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 2:42 pm to ATL_Tiger
It's not just majors. His record in regular tour events has slid significantly
Posted on 1/31/10 at 2:44 pm to usc6158
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His record in regular tour events has slid significantly
Do you think this matters to him at all????
He is all about the MAJORS!!!! And will win 4 more or so.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 2:53 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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I don't know how anybody can legitimately try to argue that he hasn't. You think he looks as good as he did when he was 24? I rarely see him play that same level of sublime tennis that he used to. He certainly didn't last night despite whipping Murray.
We're also not strictly speaking about this tourney only. Last year proved that he's no longer invulnerable in slams against anyone not named Nadal. Like USC said, he's still the best player but the gap has started to shrink.
That's the point. He doesn't look as good as he was at 24, but still wins majors with ease. Of course he's not going to be as good as he was when he was 24, as that was probably the most dominant stretch of tennis in the history of tennis. Don't you get it? you're comparing him now to the most dominant 2 years of tennis ever. So of course relative to his old self, he's not as good.
Another thing Fed has going in his favor. The only person to have really stopped him from winning more grandslams in that time period was Nadal. Who as we've discussed is on his way down already. He could certainly win the French more frequently now, which was basically un-winnable for him while Nadal was at his prime.
So let me get this straight. You think from here on out, Federer will only win 4 more grandslams? His level will have to drop precipitously within the next year (where he'll likely win 2 of the next 4). His level of play, even if like you mentioned has dropped, is still good enough to win 2 slams a year. And with his fitness/style of play, he can definitely maintain this level for the next 2 years or so.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 2:54 pm to usc6158
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It's not just majors. His record in regular tour events has slid significantly
yea...these don't mean very much to him. He lost 2 in a row to Davy in regular tournaments, then pooped on his face at the Aussie. Davy was easily the hottest/best player coming into the Aussie.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 3:07 pm to ATL_Tiger
I'm a big Fed fan, not trying to bash him in the least. I just think 10 more at age 28 is unrealistic. That's winning 2-3 more a year for the next 4 - 5 years. I said 20, but I did say that it was just a guess. I could see him winning more than that. He'll probably be the heavy favorite at Wimbledon for a long time to come.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:09 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Nadal owns fed. Grand slams the only grand slam fed has beaten nadal is n is Wimbledon and that's only two times
Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:31 pm to TulaneTigerFan
I love the when the slams come around and the tennis talk starts up. Remember last year when half the board was saying Fed was done and Nadal would overtake him as GOAT in no time?
Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:37 pm to kfizzle85
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Remember last year when half the board was saying Fed was done and Nadal would overtake him as GOAT in no time?
I remember either Hot Carl or Ron Mexico calling me an idiot for saying that there's no way Nadal would pass Fed's slam record. Now it's been almost a full calendar year since Nadal has won a single tourney, even the lesser ones.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:43 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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Once Federer wins the first set at a major, he's 172-5. Up two sets, forget it; he's 156-0.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yeah fed hasn't been winning grand slams (other than the french) at will like he used to
he's going to lose in a good # of finals in the next few years by his standards. the small slide has already begun
yea ok. you obviously dont watch tennis.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:11 pm to Deactived
you haven't been paying attention 
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