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re: Expanding CFP Won't Increase Parity

Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

8 team playoffs are terrible ways to determine a champion


I actually agree with you that they aren’t the best and that the Saints are the best team in NFL right now.

EPL has the best system. Play everyone home and away. Best record is champion.

Problem in college football is that playoffs are needed as there are too many teams to have true cross-conference play.

NFL has too many to play home and away. Even in the NFL a playoff is needed.

Without a balanced regular season a playoff is needed. No way to say a 13-0 Pac 12 champion is really better than a 11-2 SEC champion without playing the game.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55424 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:30 pm to
This is correct.

Allowing ESPN to get four more media darlings in the playoff annually will not do anything to improve CFB.

Like another poster said, recruits have figured out the system as it stands now is only there to benefit about 5-7 teams, and that's it. Everyone else is playing for scraps, or they have to go unbeaten and win their CCG (unless they are a brand team).

Hell, if you are an SECW team, your task now is beating Bama twice annually as well, which is impossible. Got to beat them in the regular season, and win the SEC for the right to rematch them in the playoff. This year we moved to "if they lose the CCG, they are still in", so now SEC East teams like UGA face the prospect of beating them in the SECCG, then having to play them again in a couple weeks.

Expanding this to 8 teams will do NOTHING. And if you think ESPN would put a UCF in an 8 team pool you are kidding yourself.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:32 pm to
True. I agree.

Cfb would make great strides if games against the G5 were limited to one per year.

11 P5 games on the schedule should be required. ooc emphasized
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29586 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:34 pm to
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And yet Bama has gotten a mulligan by not winning its conference (or even its own division) under the current system and under the BCS.


Because they undoubtedly had a top 2 or 4 resume even with that loss.
Posted by tigerspin
Member since Dec 2008
1882 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:35 pm to
I’m torn.

An 8 team system does cheapen the regular season even more.

It does however mean it isn’t as big of a travesty when the committee does something stupid like put Notre Dame as the 3 seed.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:36 pm to
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Because they undoubtedly had a top 2 or 4 resume even with that loss.


bingo. the mulligan narrative is so hilarious.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61102 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:36 pm to
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Cfb would make great strides if games against the G5 were limited to one per year.


ahh yes MSB logic

"G5s need to play more P5s to prove their worth!!!!"

also

"P5s should only play one G5 a year!!!!"



This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted by lawtill
San Antonio
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61102 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:39 pm to
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bingo. the mulligan narrative is so hilarious.


Not really. It shows the massive hole in the system.

They say they want the best teams but then turn around and discount certain teams b/c "they don't deserve it" based off of completely arbitrary reasons.

How the hell do you know who the best teams are if they can't all play each other? Why do some teams get to have a loss or 2 and still be considered when teams in the exact same conference would never be afforded that luxury?
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:40 pm to
G5 just needs to go their own way.


They'll never do it though because of the socialist handouts they need to survive.

Lmao.
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Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61102 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:41 pm to
You don't know what socialism is and all y'all that keep saying playoffs are socialism need pick up a book and learn something b/c you don't know what the frick you are talking about.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:41 pm to
ND would have been the 3 seed in any type of playoffs. 8;16;32 etc

What an odd argument
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:43 pm to
The G5 needs handouts to survive. Facts

It's the epitome of a socialist enterprise
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:43 pm to
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The CFP should stay at 4 teams.


As long as Notre Dame gets knocked down to the same level UCF is at right now, deal.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61102 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:44 pm to
The P5/G5 relationship is not what socialism is. You don't know what you are talking about.

Never mind that hardly any athletic departments are in the black. You want to say that the SEC is socialist b/c they don't tell Vandy to eat shite? Is that your stance?
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted by TheAstroTiger
Member since Jun 2018
3101 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:44 pm to
So settling on the field is bad? Georgia and UCf should have the chance to prove what they are worth but they didn’t get that chance because of humans
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:45 pm to
You can argue UCF I guess but Georgia did have a chance and lost twice.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:47 pm to
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G5 just needs to go their own way.


That would kill college football. If you eliminate G5/FCS game a lot of average CFB teams are going to go from 9-3/8-4 to 6-6/5-7 or worse once you eliminate the rent-a-wins

Want to see interest tank, have a majority of P5 teams start finishing at .500 every year.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:49 pm to
Yes the sec is socialist. Every conference is...

I'm not so sure why that is so hard to accept.

Big boys support the little guy.

Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61102 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:54 pm to
No, they are business partners. Again, you clearly don't know what the hell socialism is.
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