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re: ESPN and others regarding the greens at the US Open
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:39 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:39 pm to lsufball19
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and I don’t think anyone who is honest with themselves can be entertained by this nonsense
its the best golf ive watched all year
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:56 pm to Jones
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its the best golf ive watched all year
Must be the only golf you've watched all year. This course is a joke. There's a difference between highly challenging and unfair.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:05 pm to crimson crazy
its not. it is my opinion though that this has been the best golf all year.
i like watching pros hack it around
i like watching pros hack it around
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:05 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Then greens that aren't so fricking treacherous.
This is the problem and where the USGA continues to screw up. Greens with this amount of slope aren't designed to be played at speeds upwards of 15 on the stimpmeter. The greens effectively become half as big as they're designed to be because if you don't hit them in the right spot, your ball doesn't stay on them.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:06 pm to Jones
quote:No it isn't
its the best golf ive watched all year
But that doesn't have anything to do with his course.
"The best golf you ever seen" doesn't happen very often.
Stenson vs Phil might qualify. This week doesn't.
ETA: I misread your post. But my point MIGHT still stand.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:09 pm to Jones
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its the best golf ive watched all year
How?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:10 pm to Jones
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i like watching pros hack it around
Why? I see this said all the time and will never understand why people like watching this. Like I said, I can watch golfers hack around a golf course any day of the week. Or is this like a car accident analogy for you?
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
I don’t know if this is how I’d have drawn it up but people need to chill acting like this is a disgrace to golf. Two of the players tied for the lead are the number one player in the world and the defending US Open champ. Apparently there is a method to the madness because the results are still fairly predictable.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:19 pm to beaverfever
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Apparently there is a method to the madness because the results are still fairly predictable.
The majority of the top 10 didn’t even make the cut. Rickie shot an 84 today. These results were not predictable, at all
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:25 pm to Jones
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you should be disqualified for doing something like that
At the very least he should not be eligible for the ticket jackpot and free go-kart pass for a hole in one on 18.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:28 pm to lsufball19
Because historically plenty of places make the course too easy for the pros.
The coin has been flipped and everyone is crying.
I like watching the best players in the world struggle to break even.
The coin has been flipped and everyone is crying.
I like watching the best players in the world struggle to break even.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:29 pm to beaverfever
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don’t know if this is how I’d have drawn it up but people need to chill acting like this is a disgrace to golf. Two of the players tied for the lead
They're tied for the lead because they played a different course today. Finau and Berger came from 11 back today. That's not DJ and Keopka and those guys fault.
It's just dumb to manufacture high scores. If the course is just hard, like it was Thursday, that's fine, but making it where it's literally impossible to hit the green to "protect par" (whatever that means) is just unnecessary.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:30 pm to Jones
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I like watching the best players in the world struggle to break even
Why? They aren't struggling on their own merits, they're struggling because they're playing on a tarmac, not a golf course.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:30 pm to Jones
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Because historically plenty of places make the course too easy for the pros.
There’s making a course challenging and then what we’ve seen this week. There’s a gray area that can provide a challenge for pros that doesn’t make a mockery of a tournament. What the USGA does is try to manufacture bad scores.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:34 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
The problem I had with today wasn't really that the course is designed tough. I have no problem watching golfers be challenged more than ever for a major. It's kind of cool that they make this the toughest of the tough. It's just one tournament a year.
My problem is the golfers who played later in the day were at a massive disadvantage. Watching the early groupings, compared to the later groupings was just ridiculous with the difference in the greens. I understand that conditions can, and often do change, in tournaments as the day goes on, but this went from a tough course early to an impossible course later.
My problem is the golfers who played later in the day were at a massive disadvantage. Watching the early groupings, compared to the later groupings was just ridiculous with the difference in the greens. I understand that conditions can, and often do change, in tournaments as the day goes on, but this went from a tough course early to an impossible course later.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:34 pm to lsufball19
quote:Using Rickie in your argument isn't that strong.
The majority of the top 10 didn’t even make the cut. Rickie shot an 84 today. These results were not predictable, at all
I could easily address them all(the top 10) but I'm too drunk.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:46 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Using Rickie in your argument isn't that strong. I could easily address them all(the top 10) but I'm too drunk.
All my post was responding to was this tournament being "predictable" because the world's #1 and another guy from the top 10 are in the top 5. Well, most of the rest of the top 10 has blown up or missed the cut, which is not exactly predictable, as the previous poster said. And why can't I use Rickie? Rickie has finished in the top 5 in 3 of his last 4 majors. Rickie isn't exactly known for putting up rounds in the mid 80s
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:51 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Why?
what reason do some of you want?
is 'i like watching it' not enough?
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:00 am to Jones
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what reason do some of you want?
I'll tell you what I think. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. I think people that say they enjoy watching rounds like today because it makes them feel better about themselves hacking around on a golf course. Which goes back to my car accident analogy. Some people just like seeing carnage.
Let me ask you this. Let's say, for the sake of argument, you generally shoot around 90. Would you have fun playing a round where you shoot 130? That's, comparatively, what today was at the US Open. And if you wouldn't get joy out of doing something yourself, why would it bring you joy to see someone else go through it?
This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 12:05 am
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:49 am to lsufball19
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And if you wouldn't get joy out of doing something yourself, why would it bring you joy to see someone else go through it?
I don't know why anyone would care if the pros are having fun, it's a job to them. You hit a bad shot, you make a bogey. It's much better than seeing some pro hit a snap hook and have the same chance to hit a good approach as the guy that drove it down the middle. This is much more of a thinking man's tournament.
It's great to see when guy are out of position be penalized. For example, I believe it was on hole 10 the other day, Tiger was in the right rough. Most tour events, there is no rough penalty. From inside of 150, Tigers goal was it hit it in the bunker and try and get it up and down from there. I of course enjoy watching them play the par 33 back 9 at Augusta every year on Sunday and whey just bomb it and hit at every flag. But, this is a great change of pace 1 time a year where you have to really really think.
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