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re: ESPN and others regarding the greens at the US Open
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:21 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:21 pm to tgrbaitn08
Any of y'all remember when they played this piece of shite in '04? Halfway through the weekend rounds they had to get some hoses out there if I recall correctly because putts were just tumbling off the greens like marbles.
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:26 pm to tgrbaitn08
The putting was absolutely insane to watch. For me the only injustice is that the course got significantly worse throughout the day. I have no issue with the winner being above par but the putting certainly bordered on gimmicky
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:27 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Wasn't last year ridiculous the other way because the wind didn't kick in? Koepka -16, Sneds and Thomas T9 at -8, Thomas third round -9
Yea, with courses like Shinnecock and Erin Hills, where their biggest defenses are wind and fescue, it’s a really fine line between what we saw today and what we saw last year and that line all depends on the wind/rain.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:29 pm to messyjesse
They were talking to that Fay guy today who I think was head of USGA back in 2004 and he insisted that things are way better this year. That lesbian Azinger also said the course was fair today. 
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:55 pm to tgrbaitn08
I’m a casual golf viewer and I watched about 4-5 hours of coverage today, probably the most I’ve ever watched in a full day, much less a weekend. IMO, it was not a good look for the PGA today. It seemed like every golfer was complaining either verbally or with their expressions on the course about the conditions. Then when Phil had a bad moment, it was hard to watch. I have no idea what the solution is going forward but they can’t have this kind of day on national TV again and expect to grow viewership and promote the game.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:56 pm to messyjesse
That was Bethpage not Shinnecock
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:02 pm to tgrbaitn08
Having to watch FOX broadcast the U.S. Open <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< the greens.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:03 pm to MeTarzanYouInsane
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Phil had a bad moment, it was hard to watch.
its hard to watch because it was a complete chickenshit move
you should be disqualified for doing something like that
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:14 pm to MeTarzanYouInsane
quote:USGA*
it was not a good look for the PGA today
What did the PGA do wrong?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:15 pm to sms151t
quote:They had to do it here in 04.
That was Bethpage not Shinnecock
If the group in front of you made triple or worse, they gave the greens water.
If nobody in a group made triple, the greens received no water until a triple bogey was made.
It was 100% Shinnecock.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:18 pm to 88Wildcat
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The course would be fine if the PGA or Augusta National Golf Club were in charge of setting it up for the tournament. The problem is the USGA would rather the winning score be +10 than -1.
Saw the women's open at Shoal Creek, and there course wasn't set up this way although it could have been. It was a great tourney with a great finish. I've never understood why the USGA feels the need to do this.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:22 pm to Jones
I'd be down with skinny fairways.
Penalizing rough.
Then greens that aren't so fricking treacherous.
Make em tough. He'll make em unfair but give them fringe. Give them zero fringe but make the greens a TAD bit easier.
There is certainly a happy medium.
Penalizing rough.
Then greens that aren't so fricking treacherous.
Make em tough. He'll make em unfair but give them fringe. Give them zero fringe but make the greens a TAD bit easier.
There is certainly a happy medium.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:24 pm to sms151t
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That was Bethpage not Shinnecock
Maybe it happened at Bethpage as well, but it definitely happened at Shinnecock. Specifically the 7th hole. Golf Channel had a bit about that the other night.
ETA: Reauxl beat me to it.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:25 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
Bethpage they had to do it between every group on Saturday
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:31 pm to sms151t
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Bethpage
Must have been in 2002. Last time they played at Bethpage they got shite tons of rain and had to finish on Monday.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:38 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
It was Phil threw a fit on a hole and was all over the rules guy because winds and fast greens wouldn’t hold. The heavy winds and nobody could drive the ball past 250 as well.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:00 pm to 88Wildcat
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88Wildcat
Topeka, KS
I need to know more...
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:08 pm to ReauxlTide222
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USGA*
I get what you’re saying but to the casual fan, it’s the PGA tour with PGA players looking very boorish. I know when I watched the Masters it was a very different feel and mood. Hopefully the USGA notices this and makes the appropriate changes.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:18 pm to MeTarzanYouInsane
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Hopefully the USGA notices this and makes the appropriate changes.
The USGA doesn’t care. They want a gimmick major that has as high a score as they can manufacture and call it a true test of golf. No, it’s unenjoyable golf. There is nothing fun about watching professionals hack around a course and playing putt putt on concrete greens. Pro sports are supposed to be entertaining, and I don’t think anyone who is honest with themselves can be entertained by this nonsense. I don’t need the USGA to provide bad golf. I can go out to any local course on the weekend to see that.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:33 pm to sms151t
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How would Augusta or PGA handle wind that was stronger than expected and dried the greens?
Just fine, they aren't over manipulating the greens to the point of losing them. Augusta and the PGA just want exciting golf, they aren't obsessed over making it this brutal test where they are setting up courses in a manner that they weren't designed for.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 10:34 pm
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