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re: ESPN airing the Douglas v Tyson fight NOW
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:02 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:02 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:04 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
He didn’t really fight back like he did in past fights
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:04 pm to Heavy C
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He didn’t really fight back like he did in past fights
Well he was a lunatic, so that's not too hard to believe.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:29 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Sports book addressed that event. 3 to 1 on the hockey compared to 42 to 1
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:42 am to Tigerbait337
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The biggest upset in sports history is starting now
They already did a 30for30 on the 1980 USA Hockey Team
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:57 am to diat150
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Nah he won they gave buster a long count.
Buster got a long count, but he looked ok and like he was timing getting up to the ref's count. If it had been a shorter count, I think he would have hit that too.
Buster was also controlling the fight. He dominated Tyson in the 8th and 9th. Tyson clearly won two rounds and Buster probably had the rest. Even the knockdown was in a relatively even round when Tyson just hit a big punch.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:03 am to Deactived
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Sports book addressed that event. 3 to 1 on the hockey compared to 42 to 1
Saw that at the end.
I find that crazy.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:15 am to Tigerbait337
Perfect storm of ridiculous hubris meets unexpected determination.
By 1990 Tyson was thought to be completely unstoppable. The rubber glove in this fight is the most visible sign of that hubris. The corner never thought Tyson could or would be hurt or that they fight would last longer than a few rounds, if that.
On the other hand, Douglas was a model of inconsistency. He was not thought of as a guy who had the inner strength to "fight back" the minute he faced adversity. However, for that one fleeting moment he found that determination. His mother dies less than 3 weeks before the fight and he refuses to postpone it. He came in with nothing to lose and a spirit to fight.
Once the fight got to about round 5 Tyson found himself in a place he NEVER thought he would be. Panic started to set in. Still, we saw how great Tyson was and could be when he knocked Douglas down in the 8th. That would have ended the hopes of most competitors. But Douglas came back to fight maybe one of the best rounds for any fighter in the history of boxing. The 9th. After taking Tyson's best shot he, he regained his determination and bludgeoned Tyson in the 9th. Only the ropes and the bell kept Tyson up. The Douglas devastated him in the 10th..leading to one of the most unexpected shots in sports history, a clearly dazed and wobbly Tyson scrambling to find his mouthpiece. For the first time in his career Tyson looked completely helpless
By 1990 Tyson was thought to be completely unstoppable. The rubber glove in this fight is the most visible sign of that hubris. The corner never thought Tyson could or would be hurt or that they fight would last longer than a few rounds, if that.
On the other hand, Douglas was a model of inconsistency. He was not thought of as a guy who had the inner strength to "fight back" the minute he faced adversity. However, for that one fleeting moment he found that determination. His mother dies less than 3 weeks before the fight and he refuses to postpone it. He came in with nothing to lose and a spirit to fight.
Once the fight got to about round 5 Tyson found himself in a place he NEVER thought he would be. Panic started to set in. Still, we saw how great Tyson was and could be when he knocked Douglas down in the 8th. That would have ended the hopes of most competitors. But Douglas came back to fight maybe one of the best rounds for any fighter in the history of boxing. The 9th. After taking Tyson's best shot he, he regained his determination and bludgeoned Tyson in the 9th. Only the ropes and the bell kept Tyson up. The Douglas devastated him in the 10th..leading to one of the most unexpected shots in sports history, a clearly dazed and wobbly Tyson scrambling to find his mouthpiece. For the first time in his career Tyson looked completely helpless
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:44 am to Alt26
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Still, we saw how great Tyson was and could be when he knocked Douglas down in the 8th.
Tyson always had power. His decline was because he stopped using movement and setting up combos.
When he got lazy on technique and building his attack, he started having difficulty against bigger fighters or guys with solid defense. Douglas and Lewis were too big for him to consistently get in range of without movement and multiple punches. Holyfield was too tough to go down on one shot and had good defense.
Douglas was during the period Tyson's skills were in full regression. He rebounded a little with the Ruddock fights, but then came prison. After that, he just hunted the one big shot.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:03 am to Rep520
I saw a documentary about Tyson where after the McBride fight ended and he declared retirement back in 2005. A couple of days after he said he was going into a retirement a reporter asked him what did he think about his career ending and Tyson said “my career ended in Japan back in 1990”.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:05 am to Deactived
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What's bigger?
Not much but here are a few
UMBC over Virginia
Leicester City winning the premier league
Sarava winning the Belmont over War Emblem
2007 Stanford over USC
2007 App State over Michigan
US Hockey vs. Russians in the Olympics
That's pretty much the list.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:08 am to olemc999
Always fascinated by Tyson's career. That said, I didn't learn anything during this 30 for 30 that I didn't already know, other than hearing some clips of his arrogance. In the earlier years he was not so openly disrespectful of his opponents.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:12 am to Goldrush25
I learned a bit from the bookie. I never understood Vegas odds and all that. Kinda cool he was the only one that put up odds on the fight.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:12 am to Goldrush25
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In the earlier years he was not so openly disrespectful of his opponents.
The loss of Cus D'Amato is a large what if in Tyson's career arc.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:16 am to Tigerbait337
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The biggest upset in sports history is starting now
1980 USA hockey team says howdy...........
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:18 am to therick711
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The loss of Cus D'Amato is a large what if in Tyson's career arc.
It was huge BUT Getting rid of Rooney is what did Tyson in..............
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:37 pm to dukke v
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1980 USA hockey team says howdy...........
According to bookmakers on this documentary.
It wasn't.
Some vegas bookmaker on it said that was only 3-1. (Not sure I really believe him but other posters have also posted about it in here that it was said)
This was 42-1
Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:56 pm to Tigerbait337
To this day it's still surreal to believe.
Tyson was never the same again.
Tyson was never the same again.
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