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re: Eliah Drinkwitz on one-year-rental QBs

Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:11 pm to
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get his point and you'd probably want a guy who had a couple years, but it kinda depends on the circumstances. Some guys are kinda "damaged goods" (Jayden, Nix), some haven't played much (Burrow). Some can do well right off like Penix, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray or Jalen Hurts.



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This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted by brgfather129
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:13 pm to
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Eliah Drinkwitz


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Posted by Gountiss
Boone, NC
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:14 pm to
Penix also played for Deboer At Indiana and Nix played under Kenny Dillingham I believe so not exactly starting from scratch
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:02 pm to
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Look at Joe Burrow -- it took him two years, too. The one-year plug-and-play has not had a whole lot of success. I think some of these programs are going to be taking big risks.


Experience as a starter before transfer and when transfer can practice with new team plays into it.

JB was probably the exception as he had barely played at Ohio State much less being a starter in any games there (never played in a 1st half in college before 2018), was a graduate transfer who didn’t start working out with team until some point in the summer of 2018, and inherited a predictable offense.

In 2018 LSU still beat 4 teams ranked in the top 10 at time of the games (2 at neutral sites & 1 on the road). If something closer to 2019’s offense and play calling were in place his first year he probably would have been one and done.

I get his premise, but judging every QB transfer’s first year by JB’s second year is a high standard of success that many good QBs that stayed at same school for 3 or 4 years never achieved. To a lesser degree the same goes with JD, Penix, and Nix in 2023 (lesser with only Penix having chance for championship & perfect season but he also tailed off too much towards end of season for true heisman type numbers).
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:00 pm to
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Penix was damn good in '22 as well. He led the nation in passing and total offense.

Wonder how much Penix’s ability to play well in ‘22 was driven from his HC being his OC in 18 & 19
Posted by ABucks11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:11 pm to
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I think some of these programs are going to be taking big risks."


The risk is worth it for a 2010 Auburn or a 2019 LSU season.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32973 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:38 pm to
Sam Howell and Shakur Sanders this year.

Unfortunately we are nearing one and done territory in college football. Players are transferring, playing one year, and sitting out bowl games if they don’t make the playoffs.

CFB as we know and love is dead. Semi-pro sponsored commercialism is what rules the day.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:46 pm to
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Wonder how much Penix’s ability to play well in ‘22 was driven from his HC being his OC in 18 & 19

Penix was getting a lot of buzz heading into the 2020 season. DeBoer leaving prior to the season, Covid, and injuries derailed his Indiana career.

It definitely helped his 2022 season and transition to a new team by being reunited with his old OC.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15122 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:43 pm to
Minshew did all right in his 1 year w Leach. He went from no longer planning to play football to an NFL QB in 1 year
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11453 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:57 pm to
And it took several games for the coaches to figure out how to use him. The offense sputtered at times early in the season
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