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re: ECF: Heat 77 @ Pacers 91 | Final | Tied 3-3
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:08 pm to Interception
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:08 pm to Interception
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The call was correct. They just usually give Lebron that call. Regardless he acted like a bitch afterwards.
The initial foul call was absolutely incorrect.
The technical was deserved.
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:09 pm to tigerpimpbot
im surprised this thread didnt hit the 1000 mark
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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in no way, shape, or form was that an offensive foul
One guy jumps straight up and the other throws an elbow on the drive (LeBron).
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:09 pm to ThaBigFella
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there is no way stern lets them lose that game
yep, stern is having nightmares right now thinking of a pacers/spurs finals
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:09 pm to KillerNut9
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Birdman, Hibbert, Bosh, and West would have fouled out of every game this series. T
birdman is a weakside blocker. bosh uses his athleticism and length to cut guys off (why he's usually great at P/R defense). west ain't contesting shots near the goal
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:10 pm to Interception
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One guy jumps straight up
from the circle
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and the other throws an elbow on the drive (LeBron).
hibbert hit lebron's face, too
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:12 pm to WestCoastAg
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im surprised this thread didnt hit the 1000 mark
My bad, I was at the movies until like 3 mins left in the 4th quarter otherwise I would have been up in here stirring shite up
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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birdman is a weakside blocker. bosh uses his athleticism and length to cut guys off (why he's usually great at P/R defense). west ain't contesting shots near the goal
Are you just trying to troll now?
Find me the rule that says "establishing position and going straight up" is a block. You're fricking insane.
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:13 pm to Interception
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One guy jumps straight up and the other throws an elbow on the drive (LeBron).
You've completely discounted where Hibbert's arm slammed Lebron in the face while they were both in the air.
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:15 pm to tigerpimpbot
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You've completely discounted where Hibbert's arm slammed Lebron in the face while they were both in the air.
The ref saw the play close up and recognized a cheap elbow by LeBron.
This post was edited on 6/1/13 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:16 pm to tigerpimpbot
I don't see how people can argue that the call on James was correct... I believe that's the first offensive foul call I've seen when the defender left his feet.
With that said, MIA deserves to lose. I don't think there's some conspiracy with the refs... IMO they just suck.
With that said, MIA deserves to lose. I don't think there's some conspiracy with the refs... IMO they just suck.
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:17 pm to KillerNut9
Block/Charge:
A block/charge foul occurs when a defender tries to get in front of his man to stop him from going in that direction. If he does not get into a legal defensive position and contact occurs, it is a blocking foul. If he gets to a legal position and the offensive player runs into him it is an offensive foul. In both situations, if the contact is marginal, no foul may be called. To get into a legal position defending against the dribble, the defender needs to get his torso directly in the path and beat him to the spot. On a drive to the basket, the defender must get to his position before the shooter starts his upward shooting motion. For off ball players, the defender must get into position and allow enough opportunity for the offensive player to stop and/or change direction. All ties are considered blocks as the defender did not beat him to the spot but arrived at the same time.
Restricted Area:
The restricted area (RA) is the area within the arched line on the court located below the rim. Its purpose is to stop secondary defenders from taking a position under the basket in an attempt to draw the offensive foul when a player is driving to the basket. If an offensive player drives past his primary defender on the way to the basket and a secondary defender comes over, he must establish a legal position outside the RA to draw an offensive foul. If the drive starts inside the Lower Defensive Box (LDB – this is the area from the bottom tip of the free throw circle to the endline between the two 3’ posted-up marks), the secondary defender is legally allowed to be positioned inside the RA. The restricted are also does not apply if the secondary defender jumps in attempting to block the shot, the offensive player leads with his leg or knee in an unnatural motion or uses his off arm to prevent the defender from blocking his shot. The RA does not extend from below the backboard to the baseline. Therefore, if a player drives the baseline and is not attempting to go directly to the rim, the RA does not apply.
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A block/charge foul occurs when a defender tries to get in front of his man to stop him from going in that direction. If he does not get into a legal defensive position and contact occurs, it is a blocking foul. If he gets to a legal position and the offensive player runs into him it is an offensive foul. In both situations, if the contact is marginal, no foul may be called. To get into a legal position defending against the dribble, the defender needs to get his torso directly in the path and beat him to the spot. On a drive to the basket, the defender must get to his position before the shooter starts his upward shooting motion. For off ball players, the defender must get into position and allow enough opportunity for the offensive player to stop and/or change direction. All ties are considered blocks as the defender did not beat him to the spot but arrived at the same time.
Restricted Area:
The restricted area (RA) is the area within the arched line on the court located below the rim. Its purpose is to stop secondary defenders from taking a position under the basket in an attempt to draw the offensive foul when a player is driving to the basket. If an offensive player drives past his primary defender on the way to the basket and a secondary defender comes over, he must establish a legal position outside the RA to draw an offensive foul. If the drive starts inside the Lower Defensive Box (LDB – this is the area from the bottom tip of the free throw circle to the endline between the two 3’ posted-up marks), the secondary defender is legally allowed to be positioned inside the RA. The restricted are also does not apply if the secondary defender jumps in attempting to block the shot, the offensive player leads with his leg or knee in an unnatural motion or uses his off arm to prevent the defender from blocking his shot. The RA does not extend from below the backboard to the baseline. Therefore, if a player drives the baseline and is not attempting to go directly to the rim, the RA does not apply.
LINK
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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from the circle
Inside the circle
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hibbert hit lebron's face, too
Only after LeBron hit him first
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:19 pm to Smoke7024
quote:boom
Smoke7024
This post was edited on 6/1/13 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:21 pm to Smoke7024
Looks like we're done here 
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:24 pm to GatorsGators
Sir Charles said Battier got called for same thing in game 2
Nobody complained
Boom, Barkley pulls no punches
Nobody complained
Boom, Barkley pulls no punches
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:26 pm to Interception
plenty of ppl complained about battiers call dude.
charles, i love him, but hes biased as fuuuark. He predicted Pacers to win the series in 6
charles, i love him, but hes biased as fuuuark. He predicted Pacers to win the series in 6
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:28 pm to rocket31
I think we can all agree (besides the fricking morons) that the LeBron/Hibbert call was not an offensive foul, but it definitely was not a block. It should have been a no call. The argument that it was a block because HIbbert left his feet inside the circle is hilarious.
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:36 pm to MrBlue105
lol dumbass game 7 thread got whacked
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